Wandering Off Topic

[slartibartfast]

The body was found well wrapped in plastic sheeting so scent could not escape.  Can you provide any evidence found at the lodge?

"Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest was told."

Where was the curtain taken by cadaver hands?

"A millionaire farmer "snapped" and strangled his wife during an argument before sitting down to a glass of whisky."

Where was he sitting? Eddie alerted at the sofa.

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

[Mr Gray]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

who told you that rubbish

[Brietta]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

You will need to post a cite for that ... and when you can't, you should really withdraw the misinformation.

[slartibartfast]

You will need to post a cite for that ... and when you can't, you should really withdraw the misinformation.

Whoosh. It was claimed that the dog alerted in the wrong places in an investigation which led to a convicted murderer yet we are constantly reminded about transference of cadaver scent. Posters can't have it both ways.

[Alfie]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

I am not disputing Eddie's alert in the lounge of the Prout house which was probably as a result of transferrance, only pointing out that he failed to alert in a number of more obvious places where the body had definitely been.

[slartibartfast]

I am not disputing Eddie's alert in the lounge of the Prout house which was probably as a result of transferrance, only pointing out that he failed to alert in a number of more obvious places where the body had definitely been.

But it was known to have been well wrapped up?

[Alfie]

But it was known to have been well wrapped up?

Then how did the cadaver odour get into the lounge but not the landrover or the lodge?

[Eleanor]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

 This just not true.

[ferryman]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

In his rogatory interview Martin Grime was asked:

'How long does a cadaver have to be in contact with a surface or an object for the odour to be detected''

And Grime's response

Cross-contamination is immediate.

[misty]

In his rogatory interview Martin Grime was asked:

And Grime's response

Cross-contamination is immediate.

That rather depends on the post-mortem interval. A person killed at 1am would not contaminate anything at
 1.01 am.

[Robittybob1]

You must remember cadaver scent is only transferable in certain cases, in the other ones it means a body must have been there. &%+((£

The logic seems wrong there Slarti.

[Robittybob1]

That rather depends on the post-mortem interval. A person killed at 1am would not contaminate anything at
 1.01 am.

This seems to be the important issue being missed in the previous discussion, the timeline.

[misty]

This seems to be the important issue being missed in the previous discussion, the timeline.

Agreed. For the cadaver dog to have alerted to the wardrobe a body with a post-mortem time of at least 75mins would have had to have been in there. That doesn't explain the lack of alerts to all the other items pictured in the wardrobe as shown in the crime scene photos.

[Robittybob1]

Agreed. For the cadaver dog to have alerted to the wardrobe a body with a post-mortem time of at least 75mins would have had to have been in there. That doesn't explain the lack of alerts to all the other items pictured in the wardrobe as shown in the crime scene photos.

It gets worse than that too for the dogs didn't arrive till months later.  The time interval before the test was run will mean the signal strength needed to be stronger (long postmortem interval longer) to begin with.

[misty]

Here's one Pegasus would really like as regards incomplete searching. I heard about it today on the radio. Apparently dogs were also used in the searches (but again, presumably not inside the family home).


http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/04/missing-boy-9-found-under-his-bed-6553326/

Ashitha Nagesh for Metro.co.ukTuesday 4 Apr 2017 2:40 pm

A nine-year-old boy who sparked a major police search after disappearing overnight has been found ‘under his bed’.
Josh Dinning went to bed at around 9.30pm, but when his parents went to wake him up for school he appeared to have vanished.
But after a massive helicopter search, it has been revealed that he was in his room the whole time.
Josh’s older brother, Scott, told local paper Chronicle Live that he was found ‘under a bed’.

‘I was just sitting outside the house when all of a sudden I heard someone saying, “he is here”,’ Scott told the paper.
Apparently Josh had got into the cabinet under the bed. It’s one of those beds that has sliding doors, and somehow he got himself inside and shut the doors.’
Detective Chief Superintendent Vanessa Jardine confirmed that he had been found ‘safe and well’.
As well as the police helicopter search, officers also patrolled a nearby river.

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