Wandering Off Topic

[Brietta]

The emphasis appears to be on finding someone to blame rather then finding the missing child.  At least the pitiful reward offererd by SY points to that realisation.

I think the Scotland Yard investigation will be carried out along conventional lines in what is an unconventional setting.

I don't think any reward whatever the amount is likely to entice anyone involved in Madeleine's disappearance to come forward now particularly should they suspect theirs or their family's safety might be compromised as a result.

[Brietta]

Madeleine disappeared in unknown circumstances. Operation Grange have been investigating an abduction. If she wasn't abducted then their investigation isn't acting on her behalf.

Is there even the tiniest chance that Operation Grange might know more about the situation than you have stated in what should have been properly flagged up as in your opinion.

[Brietta]

If you have any evidence  that they are actually looking for the girl I'm sure I'm not alone in wishing to see it.
OG for some reason is nothing but a headline investigation imo,Autumn 2013 crimewatch and the revelation moment,  at the beginning of 2014 imminent arrest were supposedly going to be made,it was in June that we know the 4 arguidos were questioned followed by OG officers in the full glare of the worlds media on their hands and knees in the hot sun landscaping the Portuguese countryside.November/December of that year another raft of interviewee's.
Autumn 2015 announcement of scaling back,April 2016 HH one last lead,April 2017 Rowley all theories still open.
An awful lot of headlines to have got no where bar elimination of all and sundry and the spending of £11+ million of hard earned tax payers money.

[John]

I think the Scotland Yard investigation will be carried out along conventional lines in what is an unconventional setting.

I don't think any reward whatever the amount is likely to entice anyone involved in Madeleine's disappearance to come forward now particularly should they suspect theirs or their family's safety might be compromised as a result.

Given the torching of Malinka's car and the spray painting of the word 'FALA' on the footway beside it you could have a point.

[Benice]

I think a case can be made for Operation Grange to be acting on behalf of the parents of the missing girl. As Rowley said, their mission is to help the parents. It may be that their interests and Madeleine's are the same, but if they're not............

SY  believe that Madeleine was abducted by strangers  because no evidence of foul play by the parents or their friends exists  or has ever emerged -  whereas evidence of the non-involvement of any of them in her disappearance does exist -  as well as evidence that an intruder entered 5A via a window.   

The fact that some people choose to believe that 9 people are all lying their heads off while SY detectives believe they are all telling the truth is irrelevant to SY.

SY are professional detectives not barmy conspiracy theorists  - and are not interested in entertaining the outlandish allegations - (all manifestly based on personal spite and animosity towards the parents), which pervade the 'sceptic' sites.

AIMHO

[barrier]

Mad dogs and Englishmen.

[barrier]

SY  believe that Madeleine was abducted by strangers  because no evidence of foul play by the parents or their friends exists  or has ever emerged -  whereas evidence of the non-involvement of any of them in her disappearance does exist -  as well as evidence that an intruder entered 5A via a window.   

The fact that some people choose to believe that 9 people are all lying their heads off while SY detectives believe they are all telling the truth is irrelevant to SY.

SY are professional detectives not barmy conspiracy theorists  - and are not interested in entertaining the outlandish allegations - (all manifestly based on personal spite and animosity towards the parents), which pervade the 'sceptic' sites.

AIMHO

Rowley April 2017.

MR: So, you’ll understand from your experience, the way murder investigations work, detectives will
start off with various hypotheses, about what’s happened in a murder, what has happened in a
missing person’s investigation, whether someone has been abducted. All those different possibilities
will be worked through. This case is no different from that but the evidence is limited at the moment to
be cast iron as to which one of those hypotheses we should follow. So we have to keep an open
mind. As I said we have some critical lines of enquiry, those linked to particular lines of enquiry, but
I’m not going to discuss them today because they are very much live investigations.

[Brietta]

Given the torching of Malinka's car and the spray painting of the word 'FALA' on the footway beside it you could have a point.

The Mafia were pussycats in comparison to some of these newer gangs, John; their initiation practices particularly as documented in South America, are unthinkable.
I doubt anyone who had to relocate under a new identity as a result of the troubles in Northern Ireland sleeps easy at night even at this remove.

If Madeleine was taken either from her room or from the street by an individual ... he is not going to grass himself in.

If Madeleine was taken by a criminal gang ... I do not believe they will talk now even if they would like to.

[G-Unit]

Is there even the tiniest chance that Operation Grange might know more about the situation than you have stated in what should have been properly flagged up as in your opinion.

All the evidence suggests that Operation Grange were set up to investigate an abduction and nothing else. Rowley was unable to offer any evidence of abduction except;

It is not a 20-year-old who has gone missing and who has made a decision to start a new life, this is a young girl who is missing and at the heart of this has been an abduction.

If that is 'evidence' then our police need more training because many young children disappear who haven't been abducted. Perhaps they do know more, but until they tell us we can't assume that's so.

[Benice]

Rowley April 2017.

Clutching at straws IMO.

Anyone who believes SY are not completely satisfied that neither the McCanns nor their friends are complicit in Madeleine's disappearance is allowing their wishful thinking to get the better of them IMO.

Unless you are a conspiracy theorist - the fact that the McCanns are regularly updated by SY on their activities should tell you something.

AIMHO

[Brietta]

Mad dogs and Englishmen.

Unless you care to think so.

I think the image portrays a working dog with the handler taking the necessary steps to allow it to function and carry out its job properly in a hot climate.

I thought it rather summed up your faux outrage at highly skilled professionals doing their job.  "...  on their hands and knees in the hot sun landscaping the Portuguese countryside"

Dogs and people work in all sorts of enviroments, don't you know?

One wishes you had as much concern for finding a missing girl as you have for police welfare issues and the British taxpayer for whom you purport to speak.

[Brietta]

All the evidence suggests that Operation Grange were set up to investigate an abduction and nothing else. Rowley was unable to offer any evidence of abduction except;

It is not a 20-year-old who has gone missing and who has made a decision to start a new life, this is a young girl who is missing and at the heart of this has been an abduction.

If that is 'evidence' then our police need more training because many young children disappear who haven't been abducted. Perhaps they do know more, but until they tell us we can't assume that's so.

I rather suspect the police are going on slightly more than you give them credit for ... let's wait and see who is closer to the mark.

[Benice]

All the evidence suggests that Operation Grange were set up to investigate an abduction and nothing else. Rowley was unable to offer any evidence of abduction except;

It is not a 20-year-old who has gone missing and who has made a decision to start a new life, this is a young girl who is missing and at the heart of this has been an abduction.

If that is 'evidence' then our police need more training because many young children disappear who haven't been abducted. Perhaps they do know more, but until they tell us we can't assume that's so.

IMO it is obvious that the comment was not intended to be evidence - it was just a comment - ruling out one major reason why many young people disappear.

The fact that you have to cling on to it as something to deride whilst ignoring the rest of his comment  i.e. ''and at the heart of this has been an abduction''  speaks volumes imo.

AIMHO

[G-Unit]

IMO it is obvious that the comment was not intended to be evidence - it was just a comment - ruling out one major reason why many young people disappear.

The fact that you have to cling on to it as something to deride whilst ignoring the rest of his comment  i.e. ''and at the heart of this has been an abduction''  speaks volumes imo.

AIMHO

If OG can prove that an abduction took place why not say so?

[Benice]

If OG can prove that an abduction took place why not say so?

IMO Their statement that ''neither the McCanns nor their friends are suspects or persons of interest'' should be enough to tell you that abduction is what SY believe.   What they don't know (as far as we know)  is if Madeleine was alive or dead when she was taken, or what happened to her after she disappeared.

Only sceptics and conspiracy theorists have managed to convince themselves that the real meaning of the above SY statement  is... 'The McCanns are prime suspects.

I didn't have you down as one of those people G.


Must go out now.