Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

The house was locked down.  The parent's were on the premises.  Yet an intruder managed to gain access through a window.




Well the house cant have been as secure as they think.

what happened to the girls onesies then. who took them off

imo this story you promoted seems to me like aN attempt for publicity.

He was found not guilty...surprised at you with your innocent till proven guilty approach. B

Revealing that on here of an innocent man.

An attempt for publicity for whom?  The man actually did break in and get into the girl's bed, he did not deny it - his defence was that he was blind drunk. 

[jassi]

Do burglars breaking into houses usually wake the whole street out of interest?

When they are rolling drunk they may do - singing, banging about, shouting, that sort of thing 

[jassi]

An attempt for publicity for whom?  The man actually did break in and get into the girl's bed, he did not deny it - his defence was that he was blind drunk.

A defence that was accepted.

[Vertigo Swirl]

A defence that was accepted.

Did I say otherwise?

[jassi]

Did I say otherwise?

No, you just omitted to mention it, so I did it for. 

[G-Unit]

An attempt for publicity for whom?  The man actually did break in and get into the girl's bed, he did not deny it - his defence was that he was blind drunk.

The fact that he was charged with trespass suggests to me that there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with breaking in.

[slartibartfast]

The fact that he was charged with trespass suggests to me that there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with breaking in.

Good spot.

[Angelo222]

That was based on one witness statement only and denied by Gerry McCann.  In other words we don't know the facts.  Had Mrs Fenn reported it to the Police and the complaint investigated then we would be dealing with more reliable facts.

I know who I would believe.

[Angelo222]

i kinda  wonder that some  mcann spporters that  think  it is ok to leave  toddlers alone were they born in the children  should be seen and not heard  era or  were their parents?? im in my late  30s and i dont understand   how  anyone could think its  ok to leave  toddlers  alone??

It isn't ok.  Toddlers should never be left on their own for any more than a few minutes, it's common sense but unfortunately they don't teach common sense in medical school.

[Angelo222]

Excuse me - the case was used to prove that someone could break into a house and gain access to a child while the parents were present.

JonBenét Patricia Ramsey being such an example and as yet unsolved.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The fact that he was charged with trespass suggests to me that there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with breaking in.

To be strictly accurate he was charged with (and cleared of) "trespass with intent to commit a sexual offence".

"If there is intent to commit a crime, this is burglary. If there is no such intent, the breaking and entering alone is probably at least illegal trespass, which is a misdemeanor crime." https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=98

[Mr Gray]

It isn't ok.  Toddlers should never be left on their own for any more than a few minutes, it's common sense but unfortunately they don't teach common sense in medical school.

Fortunately  they teach doctors how to save lives.... You obviously  have a problem with doctors

[Brietta]

If this and if that and if the other.
The idea of a bloke pissed as a fart carrying off a 13 year old is pushing credulity a bit far.
But lets say for the sake of argument he did. Over to you to prove it happened to MBM. Just saying well it could have because I surmise it could have happened here don't really cut it , do it now?

Don't you think it is pushing credulity for those parents to find a man in their six year old daughter's bed?
Equally incredible that he effected entry to a locked house entirely unheard and unseen and who, if he had so desired could have lifted the child and left the premises with her as unheard and unseen as he had entered?

How is it possible for you to defend such an indefensible situation?

[jassi]

Don't you think it is pushing credulity for those parents to find a man in their six year old daughter's bed?
Equally incredible that he effected entry to a locked house entirely unheard and unseen and who, if he had so desired could have lifted the child and left the premises with her as unheard and unseen as he had entered?

How is it possible for you to defend such an indefensible situation?

Quite agree

[Brietta]

Quite agree

Why am I not at all surprised by that response, but how sad that you should feel the need to express it.