Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

IYO

Sadie is right imo.  Any such notices would have been photographed and posted years ago, if they existed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And almost certainly they did not post such notices.

Cos if they had it would have been all over the internet now.

Using this fact alone, I would say that with virtually certainty, Ocean Club had NO such notices up.

True, OC would have made sure to let the world know such warnings had been given,  as an arse covering exercise. (IMO before y’all get exercised).

[Brietta]

IYO

Not required.  "I would say" does it for me.

[G-Unit]

Sadie is right imo.  Any such notices would have been photographed and posted years ago, if they existed.

I assume they didn't feel the need to issue warnings therefore. They did recommend use of the safe deposit boxes, and they didn't offer baby listening because the resort wasn't suitable.

[Carana]

I assume they didn't feel the need to issue warnings therefore. They did recommend use of the safe deposit boxes, and they didn't offer baby listening because the resort wasn't suitable.

What kind of service? A physical listening one? I don't quite see why a baby-listening service wasn't suitable if someone was assigned a particular block or at most two. But then, the absence of noise when listening at the door wouldn't necessarily mean that all was well and the time between checks would presumably not be much different to what the group (barring the Paynes) did themselves.

I've noticed a few hotels in various countries that offer some kind of baby-listening device in rooms that someone monitors at the reception and knows where to contact parents if there is any unusual noise. From what I've read, that's usually when the parents are dining in the hotel restaurant, but it could still mean quite a few minutes from noise to parents getting to the bedroom.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I assume they didn't feel the need to issue warnings therefore. They did recommend use of the safe deposit boxes, and they didn't offer baby listening because the resort wasn't suitable.

The need to issue warnings might have been precipitated by a recent increase in the number of break ins and burglaries though.  We are part of a neighbourhood watch scheme in our street.  Every now and then we get a note shoved through the door to tell us that a house in our street was broken into and how it was done, to tell us to be extra vigilant and security conscious.  It certainly doesn’t do any harm to br reminded of this now and agsin does it?

[G-Unit]

The need to issue warnings might have been precipitated by a recent increase in the number of break ins and burglaries though.  We are part of a neighbourhood watch scheme in our street.  Every now and then we get a note shoved through the door to tell us that a house in our street was broken into and how it was done, to tell us to be extra vigilant and security conscious.  It certainly doesn’t do any harm to br reminded of this now and agsin does it?

What recent increase? None of the OC staff mentioned such an increase.

[barrier]

The need to issue warnings might have been precipitated by a recent increase in the number of break ins and burglaries though.  We are part of a neighbourhood watch scheme in our street.  Every now and then we get a note shoved through the door to tell us that a house in our street was broken into and how it was done, to tell us to be extra vigilant and security conscious.  It certainly doesn’t do any harm to br reminded of this now and agsin does it?

All due respect doesn't seem to work does it? for some at least.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What recent increase? None of the OC staff mentioned such an increase.

Were there no break ins at O C in the week(s) before Madeleine’s disappearance?

[Vertigo Swirl]

All due respect doesn't seem to work does it? for some at least.

???

[barrier]

???

If you're getting note's through every now and again telling of break-ins despite increased security, for some its not working is it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

If you're getting note's through every now and again telling of break-ins despite increased security, for some its not working is it?

There’s no way of knowing - there might have been more break-ins had people not been pre-warned there were burglars operating in the area.

[John]

Sadie is right imo.  Any such notices would have been photographed and posted years ago, if they existed.

I have to agree on that one.  Had there been warning notices posted or handed out to visitors they would have been mentioned in despatches from day one IMO.

[G-Unit]

Were there no break ins at O C in the week(s) before Madeleine’s disappearance?

I have a confirmed theft but no confirmation of a forced entry or of the police being informed;

She says that as far as she can remember, during the years that she has worked at the resort, she knows of some thefts from inside the apartments and most recently on 16th April 2007 there was a theft from an apartment in Block 5 L, from where a plasma display screen, credit cards and a mobile phone belonging to the respective guests were taken.

She says that she does not remember having been told that doors or windows had been forced, the guests having said that they had just left the door on the latch, however she is not certain.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-GONCALVES.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have a confirmed theft but no confirmation of a forced entry or of the police being informed;

She says that as far as she can remember, during the years that she has worked at the resort, she knows of some thefts from inside the apartments and most recently on 16th April 2007 there was a theft from an apartment in Block 5 L, from where a plasma display screen, credit cards and a mobile phone belonging to the respective guests were taken.

She says that she does not remember having been told that doors or windows had been forced, the guests having said that they had just left the door on the latch, however she is not certain.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-GONCALVES.htm

Was that from the apartment above 5A?  Didn't Mrs Fenn's apartment have an attempted break in?