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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3825 on: July 12, 2018, 07:48:39 PM »
so women were allowed in pubs in the 70s

Women have always been allowed in Pubs. They weren't welcome in the Public Bar, or tap room, which was reserved for men. Most women wouldn't have wanted to go in anyway; they were very basic. Women used the Saloon Bar or the Snug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3826 on: July 12, 2018, 07:51:08 PM »
Women have always been allowed in Pubs. They weren't welcome in the Public Bar, or tap room, which was reserved for men. Most women wouldn't have wanted to go in anyway; they were very basic. Women used the Saloon Bar or the Snug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3827 on: July 12, 2018, 07:53:56 PM »
I remember a time when it was inappropriate for women to go into bars and pubs while unaccompanied but I don't think they were barred as such.  I suppose different areas had different rules. In some parts of the British Isles a girl had to be chaperoned on a date, same thing happened in many European countries.

When we were in Germany in the early 1970's single girls could go out only in the company of a trusted male family member. The proximity of many young male British soldiers might have had something to do with that though.
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« Reply #3828 on: July 12, 2018, 08:41:35 PM »
When we were in Germany in the early 1970's single girls could go out only in the company of a trusted male family member. The proximity of many young male British soldiers might have had something to do with that though.

Same when I was in Madeira at that time, girls had to be chaperoned by their peers.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3829 on: July 12, 2018, 09:52:13 PM »
I am not old enough to have experience of pubs in the early 70's but I imagine it would depend upon what type of pub you were talking about. A so called spit and sawdust pub in the countryside with a bunch of regulars who could well be all male probably wouldn't want a woman in there as it would stop their discussions (swearing).

When I was a younger I used to frequent a pub reasonably regularly and many times I was the only woman in the bar. I was with my boyfriend who was a regular there. Woman weren't banned but weren't particularly encouraged unless you became "one of the lads" so to speak.

I fit in really well.  ?>)()<
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3830 on: July 12, 2018, 10:13:49 PM »
I am not old enough to have experience of pubs in the early 70's but I imagine it would depend upon what type of pub you were talking about. A so called spit and sawdust pub in the countryside with a bunch of regulars who could well be all male probably wouldn't want a woman in there as it would stop their discussions (swearing).

When I was a younger I used to frequent a pub reasonably regularly and many times I was the only woman in the bar. I was with my boyfriend who was a regular there. Woman weren't banned but weren't particularly encouraged unless you became "one of the lads" so to speak.

I fit in really well.  ?>)()<

Using bad language was one of the things men did in there. In my young days men didn't swear in front of women where I lived. They swore at work and in the Pub with their mates, but not in the home.
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Offline sadie

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« Reply #3831 on: July 13, 2018, 12:24:06 AM »
I remember a time when it was inappropriate for women to go into bars and pubs while unaccompanied but I don't think they were barred as such. I suppose different areas had different rules. In some parts of the British Isles a girl had to be chaperoned on a date, same thing happened in many European countries.

Spot on John. 
They were never barred in my experience, but "nice" girls just didn't go in alone, in case they were thought of as prostitute types ( I think).   Had i wanted to go in, I would have, because I have happily broken silly conventions all my life.

I never knew anyone who was chaperoned.  Maybe that was the convention of the Upper Classes, or the ?pseudo? religious?   

Actually I read a report where promiscuousness was supposed to be rife amongst the Upper Classes and the lower end of the Working Classes.  The Middle Class girls held off, because they couldn't let their families down.

Maybe it is the same now ?  But I doubt it.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3832 on: July 13, 2018, 02:32:18 AM »
My girlfriend wouldn't even go into a bottle store.
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Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3833 on: July 13, 2018, 08:53:01 AM »
Using bad language was one of the things men did in there. In my young days men didn't swear in front of women where I lived. They swore at work and in the Pub with their mates, but not in the home.



I came of age drinking wise when 15 8(0(* 18 in the early 70's thinking back to then there were very few women nor girls in the pubs,the local dance hall/disco's where one would meet up.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3834 on: July 13, 2018, 11:02:30 AM »
God, you people are old.  When I started drinking in pubs - 1980 - there didn't appear to be any marked gender split. 
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3835 on: July 18, 2018, 01:20:54 PM »
Women have always been allowed in Pubs. They weren't welcome in the Public Bar, or tap room, which was reserved for men. Most women wouldn't have wanted to go in anyway; they were very basic. Women used the Saloon Bar or the Snug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub


According to my mum our local village 'pubs' did not have separate snug or saloon bar, there were added after late 70's due to a new law. In Scotland children are still not allowed to go into  pubs ,even with parents, unless they are having food=bar meals  are provided.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3836 on: July 18, 2018, 01:29:16 PM »
Exactly.  Yet these days you would probably get a visit from social services if you let your kindergartan age child walk to school alone (unless you lived in Switzerland of course).

Maybe get a visit not in the Tapas case

...But fortunately for the MBM's parents  leaving her alone  every night As they went out wining and dining is really all ok dokey. Thankfully those poor parents were not charged with anything.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3837 on: July 18, 2018, 02:42:53 PM »

According to my mum our local village 'pubs' did not have separate snug or saloon bar, there were added after late 70's due to a new law. In Scotland children are still not allowed to go into  pubs ,even with parents, unless they are having food=bar meals  are provided.
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A sanity check with my better half has concluded that kids in England were allowed in bars, with parents, without meals, at least 20 years ago.

The Smith visit to Kelly's was with young children and without meals.  Perhaps people are more relaxed in Luz and the RoI?
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #3838 on: July 18, 2018, 02:51:33 PM »
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A sanity check with my better half has concluded that kids in England were allowed in bars, with parents, without meals, at least 20 years ago.

The Smith visit to Kelly's was with young children and without meals.  Perhaps people are more relaxed in Luz and the RoI?
Children under 14 will be allowed into pubs
JASON BENNETTO
Wednesday 16 November 1994
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/children-under-14-will-be-allowed-into-pubs-1439842.html

Apparently it was already the case in Scotland when this article was printed:  so 1995 seems to be when the law was relaxed in England and wales
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3839 on: July 18, 2018, 03:01:44 PM »
@Shining
I am puzzled by the protuberance casting a shadow on the wall above the gate ... is it a PIR?  Do you have any idea?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....