Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

No, they used education as well.
Hitler's beliefs were taught in schools and teachers who did not promote his views were removed.
Children encouraged  to join the Hitler Youth where their "education" was continued.

You quite correctly put inverted commas round education because you know that's not the right word. Education, like travel, broadens the mind. Not everything that happens in schools is educational.

[G-Unit]

Does this freedom of speech extend to allowing people to to voice  their racist, homophobic and religious intolerance in public places and directed at any individual.
Do you believe that this right of everyone to say whatever they want comes before the right of a person to live without  prejudice and fear.
Surely the right to free speech must be tempered by some law?

Why the hyperbole? I was discussing the internet, not people ranting in public places. Of course there should be laws. The internet belongs to no country or government so it's not easy to control.

[G-Unit]

Why do you post on a forum that does not allow freedom of speech and which censors regularly then?

I freely joined a forum with rules. I agreed to take notice of the rules, as did you. I suspect that one of them is that criticising the forum on it's public pages isn't allowed. If I felt that the forum restricted my freedom of speech or censored me I would complain through the proper channels and if my complaint was ignored I would leave. On the odd occasions when I have complained I have been satisfied with the response.

[Erngath]

Why the hyperbole? I was discussing the internet, not people ranting in public places. Of course there should be laws. The internet belongs to no country or government so it's not easy to control.

There was no "hyperbole" intended.
I appreciate that you do feel that freedom of speech should be tempered by law.
Hopefully these laws will extend in the future to the internet.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I freely joined a forum with rules. I agreed to take notice of the rules, as did you. I suspect that one of them is that criticising the forum on it's public pages isn't allowed. If I felt that the forum restricted my freedom of speech or censored me I would complain through the proper channels and if my complaint was ignored I would leave. On the odd occasions when I have complained I have been satisfied with the response.

There are rule takers and rule breakers. I don’t believe this forum should be above criticism and I think I should be allowed to express my criticisms of the forum and posters freely if I so wish, and also my thoughts on this case without censorship, provide it is within the law of the land.  No doubt this post will be removed and I will be punished for standing up for exercising the rght to freedom of speech again, but c’est la vie.

[G-Unit]

There are rule takers and rule breakers. I don’t believe this forum should be above criticism and I think I should be allowed to express my criticisms of the forum and posters freely if I so wish, and also my thoughts on this case without censorship, provide it is within the law of the land.  No doubt this post will be removed and I will be punished for standing up for exercising the rght to freedom of speech again, but c’est la vie.

There are rule takers and breakers in society. The breakers sometimes end up on the wring side of the law. We have little choice when it comes to social rules, but we do when it comes to joining forums. If there are restrictions on your freedom of speech here, in my opinion it's because your speech breaks the rules.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There are rule takers and breakers in society. The breakers sometimes end up on the wring side of the law. We have little choice when it comes to social rules, but we do when it comes to joining forums. If there are restrictions on your freedom of speech here, in my opinion it's because your speech breaks the rules.

If there are restrictions and rules then there is no real freedom of speech.  Like in an authoritarian society we have to watch what we say or be punished.  Some people are happy to live under such restrictive regimes, others like to test the limits.

[Robittybob1]

If there are restrictions and rules then there is no real freedom of speech.  Like in an authoritarian society we have to watch what we say or be punished.  Some people are happy to live under such restrictive regimes, others like to test the limits.

Do you think you should be allowed to be abusive, or to tell lies, or to defame someone on here as a matter of free speech?    OK if you do expect to be banned also.  The Admin here also have the right to free speech and they have spoken.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do you think you should be allowed to be abusive, or to tell lies, or to defame someone on here as a matter of free speech?    OK if you do expect to be banned also.  The Admin here also have the right to free speech and they have spoken.

I don’t do any of those things and have had numerous posts deleted or amended.

[Robittybob1]

I don’t do any of those things and have had numerous posts deleted or amended.

I used to be like that too, and I gradually learned how to do a post that survived.  I don't get to see all the posts that are deleted and hence I can't offer advice as to what you should change.  All I can say is that it is rare for me to delete a post by you.

[G-Unit]

I used to be like that too, and I gradually learned how to do a post that survived.  I don't get to see all the posts that are deleted and hence I can't offer advice as to what you should change.  All I can say is that it is rare for me to delete a post by you.

I think you id a great job of learning. You say what you want to say in the right manner and rarely cause offense.

[Robittybob1]

I think you id a great job of learning. You say what you want to say in the right manner and rarely cause offense.

I have had several periods of being unable to post. 

I don't use smart phones but I have a feeling the use of smart phones has made producing quality posts more difficult.  I still use a desk top computer and I might have 6 windows open at once, so copy and pasting text and copying links into the one post is not an issue.

[Mr Gray]

I freely joined a forum with rules. I agreed to take notice of the rules, as did you. I suspect that one of them is that criticising the forum on it's public pages isn't allowed. If I felt that the forum restricted my freedom of speech or censored me I would complain through the proper channels and if my complaint was ignored I would leave. On the odd occasions when I have complained I have been satisfied with the response.

you dont have freedom of speech...you are not allowed to defame the mccanns

[G-Unit]

I have had several periods of being unable to post. 

I don't use smart phones but I have a feeling the use of smart phones has made producing quality posts more difficult.  I still use a desk top computer and I might have 6 windows open at once, so copy and pasting text and copying links into the one post is not an issue.

I like my laptop. Those phones are too small as I'm growing a cataract at the moment ha ha.

[G-Unit]

you dont have freedom of speech...you are not allowed to defame the mccanns

I don't want to, so that''s OK.