Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nevertheless;

my position was one where I was as sceptical of the accepted (abduction) theory as I was of any other. I said I would also like to make the point that Operation Grange was so restricted from the start as to be destined to fail.  In support of this I presented the original Grange terms of reference and told them of the advice I had received in the phone call...
http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/

It looks like he may be correct; Grange may close with nothing achieved.

how can you be sceptical of ALL theories pertaining to Madeleine’s disappearance?   Strange he hasn’t made any comment on the case since Brückner was id’ed - or maybe he has and I missed it.

[G-Unit]

how can you be sceptical of ALL theories pertaining to Madeleine’s disappearance?   Strange he hasn’t made any comment on the case since Brückner was id’ed - or maybe he has and I missed it.

Perhaps, like me, he has doubts about all the theories which have been suggested. Imo none of them is totally convincing. They are, after all, just theories. The truth could be something no-one has thought of.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps, like me, he has doubts about all the theories which have been suggested. Imo none of them is totally convincing. They are, after all, just theories. The truth could be something no-one has thought of.

no it couldn’t.

[Wonderfulspam]

You can say Madeleine was abducted without putting IMO now, the precedent was set when mods turned a blind eye to the numerous posts stating Madeleine was not abducted without any IMO caveat.

There's already a thread called 'Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction' started by a mod, ffs

Not an IMO in sight.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12372.0

I have just as much right to say that she wasn't abducted. Actually, thinking about it, I have even more right.

[Wonderfulspam]

I've had an idea.

Let's all agree to refer to Madeleine's disappearance as a disappearance, then I wouldn't have to keep saying she wasn't abducted, and also, let's agree to stop saying Wolters has solved the case, then I wouldn't have to keep telling you he hasn't.

Sounds fair enough to me, if it's fair forum you're after.

[G-Unit]

no it couldn’t.

Why not? 'Abduction' has been investigated and it's beginning to look like a fail. Grange is said to be closing and they didn't find the abductor. The Germans seem no nearer to charging their suspect. Who knows what the Portuguese are doing. None of them are looking as if they're suceeding, to be honest.

[G-Unit]

It doesn't look like he may be correct... That's your opinion not a fact... Do I need to remind you of forum rules..
Imo... It's a fact that Maddie was murdered by a paedophile.. And Wolters has the proof

When's the trial beginning?

[Wonderfulspam]

When's the trial beginning?

Wolters: "Your honour, I have concrete evidence that Brueckner is the murderer, & if you saw it you'd be left in no doubt, only I can't show you what it is because it's a secret, so you'll just have to take my word for it"

Judge: "Right you are then, I find the defendant guilty"

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why not? 'Abduction' has been investigated and it's beginning to look like a fail. Grange is said to be closing and they didn't find the abductor. The Germans seem no nearer to charging their suspect. Who knows what the Portuguese are doing. None of them are looking as if they're suceeding, to be honest.

Ludicrous logic.  There are only three possible explanations for Madeleine’s disappearance: abduction, woke and wandered or parental abduction.  To suggest thst there might be another explanation that no one has yet thought of is ridiculous, to suggest that because the case has not yet been definitively solved that abduction is a “fail” is absurd, to pretend that the Portuguese police aren’t also now treating the case as one of abduction is to be in complete denial.

[G-Unit]

Ludicrous logic.  There are only three possible explanations for Madeleine’s disappearance: abduction, woke and wandered or parental abduction.  To suggest thst there might be another explanation that no one has yet thought of is ridiculous, to suggest that because the case has not yet been definitively solved that abduction is a “fail” is absurd, to pretend that the Portuguese police aren’t also now treating the case as one of abduction is to be in complete denial.

Logic doesn't work in this case, because it's so difficult to know who's telling the truth.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Logic doesn't work in this case, because it's so difficult to know who's telling the truth.

Don’t be silly please..   Using logic kindly explain why you think 3 police forces are treating Madeleine’s disappearance as an abduction.  What can you see that these three police forces are all failing to take into account and why are they all inferior in their approach to the disappearance compared  to an old armchair detective such as yourself?  Do you sincerely believe you have a better handle on this case than they do? If so, why, when they have far more evidence and information than you have?

[Mr Gray]

Logic doesn't work in this case, because it's so difficult to know who's telling the truth.

Let me help you.. The McCanns are telling the truth.. Wolters is telling the truth.. CB is telling lies.. The original Portuguese investigation didn't have a clue

[G-Unit]

Don’t be silly please..   Using logic kindly explain why you think 3 police forces are treating Madeleine’s disappearance as an abduction.  What can you see that these three police forces are all failing to take into account and why are they all inferior in their approach to the disappearance compared  to an old armchair detective such as yourself?  Do you sincerely believe you have a better handle on this case than they do? If so, why, when they have far more evidence and information than you have?

Grange is investigating an abduction because that's what their remit was. The Germans are investigating an abduction because they were told their suspect admitted it in 2008. The Portuguese are saying nothing atm.

[Wonderfulspam]

Let me help you.. The McCanns are telling the truth.. Wolters is telling the truth.. CB is telling lies.. The original Portuguese investigation didn't have a clue

You mean the curtains really did go whoosh?

How could I ever have doubted Kate.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Grange is investigating an abduction because that's what their remit was. The Germans are investigating an abduction because they were told their suspect admitted it in 2008. The Portuguese are saying nothing atm.

Heavens, you really are so deep in denial I bet you couldn't even bring yourself to answer the questions I asked you even in your own head.  It is very clear to anyone with an ounce of common sense that the PJ are supporting the German investigation (albeit in their own, sweet, plodding obstructive way), the Germans have said as much and if I'm not very mistaken so have the PJ, quite recently - don't ask for a cite, but it's on here somewhere.  And of course there is the little matter of the PJ having made Bruckner an arguido, which I'm sure means they're not investigating abduction - at all, no sirree....