Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

My mum?s a bit of a racist though she strenuously denies it.  The irony is, every health worker, or taxi driver or member of the general population that she encounters who is black she cannot speak highly enough about, they all without exception treat this ancient old racist white lady with utmost respect and kindness.  It?s quite amazing that not a single one of them has yet thought to stab her to death, and it goes to prove that Spam is much more of a coward than my 88 year old mum because, despite being a racist, she is quite prepared to be picked up in a taxi or treated in a hospital by a scary, potentially murderous black man.

[Wonderfulspam]

My mum?s a bit of a racist though she strenuously denies it.  The irony is, every health worker, or taxi driver or member of the general population that she encounters who is black she cannot speak highly enough about, they all without exception treat this ancient old racist white lady with utmost respect and kindness.  It?s quite amazing that not a single one of them has yet thought to stab her to death, and it goes to prove that Spam is much more of a coward than my 88 year old mum because, despite being a racist, she is quite prepared to be picked up in a taxi or treated in a hospital by a scary, potentially murderous black man.

Like I said, it isn't ALL black people obviously, the higher risk of propensity to violence though is found in young black men, usually involved in inner city gang & drug violence, drill rap & in poverty. The statistical data doesn't lie.

[Wonderfulspam]

My equation isn't simply black people=crime. That would be terrible & too racist even for me. It is more along the lines of Young black men+poverty+poor education+poor housing conditions+raised by a single mother+ drug & gang involvement+ lack of gainful employment opportunities in the local area etc etc etc. There are many factors that add to the increased risk found in young males of all races & unfortunately much of the black community suffer from many of these social & environment issues.

[Wonderfulspam]

I recently met a 30 year old black man from South Africa. We actually discussed this issue because as I growing up I had a friend born in the then Rhodesia. He married young & had two children, pursued a career in social services when he got a visa to the UK. His brother was recently shot dead back in South Africa. Anyway, he worked hard & owns a home & an area of land there. He said he it is in a gated, majority White community, because everyone understands that being around the White people there is safer. Obviously this is tied to income etc but the main point he made was that even some black people do not want to live around black people. So even he, despite being black, is a bit racist.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My equation isn't simply black people=crime. That would be terrible & too racist even for me. It is more along the lines of Young black men+poverty+poor education+poor housing conditions+raised by a single mother+ drug & gang involvement+ lack of gainful employment opportunities in the local area etc etc etc. There are many factors that add to the increased risk found in young males of all races & unfortunately much of the black community suffer from many of these social & environment issues.

When you acknowledge that so many of the problems (in fact the vast majority) are societal why do you fixate so doggedly on race being the key factor?  Why aren?t you similarly terrified of any young white or asian male raised by a single parent, on drugs, out of work and with mental  health problems and possibly carrying a concealed weapon?  Don?t  me they don?t exist, of course they do. 
And as a drug dealer yourself you have an effing cheek to be raising this as an issue when you have only contributed to the problem over the years, peddling illegal drugs to people that may have caused real harm to your customers? mental well being and relationships and encouraged criminal behaviour.  You mate are part of the problem, you disgusting little white man.

[Wonderfulspam]

When you acknowledge that so many of the problems (in fact the vast majority) are societal why do you fixate so doggedly on race being the key factor?  Why aren?t you similarly terrified of any young white or asian male raised by a single parent, on drugs, out of work and with mental  health problems and possibly carrying a concealed weapon?  Don?t  me they don?t exist, of course they do. 
And as a drug dealer yourself you have an effing cheek to be raising this as an issue when you have only contributed to the problem over the years, peddling illegal drugs to people that may have caused real harm to your customers? mental well being and relationships and encouraged criminal behaviour.  You mate are part of the problem, you disgusting little white man.

Except I haven't ever robbed or stabbed anyone or felt compelled to do so. The worst I did was sell some bags of tasty weed to people who approached me. I didn't go out actively pushing bags of crack onto homeless single mothers. I provided a service to people, white/asian & black as it happens, who wanted to smoke some weed at the evenings & weekends. Never messed with the actual hard class A stuff because that's where things get serious. Anyway. Why do I single out race? Because it's an easily identifiable characteristic. I'm not saying ALL black people are criminals or inherently dangerous & violent. I don't think that way at all. But, I have observed the statistical data around age race & crime & I take it into consideration. It would simply be unwise not to do so.

[Wonderfulspam]

I did a lot of reading about homicide statistics & contentious cases in the USA. Mostly I studied the use of lethal force in self defence. This is how I became aware that the whole 'black people are arrested more & being killed by police = racism' is a myth when you adjust for the many factors. Crime happens in the community, community policing is increased as a result, more police = more arrests of persons in that community. Obviously not all arrests result in charges because it depends on the seriousness of the crime. Eg, if a person commits a minor traffic infraction then fails to coopete or struggle with police officers they might be taken into custody, but won't always be charged & be released within 24 hours. This is why there is a high arrest rate in certain communities. The main thing to look at though is the homicide data & extrapolate upon it as homicide data is more accurate than anything else. 14% of the population commit 50% of all homicides is too glaring a statistic to ignore for me I'm afraid. You'd have to pay me an awful lot of money to visit Chicago.

[Joe Blogs]

Most violent crime and 'all' acts of terrorism are down to religion and have nothing to do with racism!

[Wonderfulspam]

Most violent crime and 'all' acts of terrorism are down to religion and have nothing to do with racism!

Would I be afraid of sitting next to Muslims at an Ariana Grande concert? Absolutely. Not all Muslims are terrorists obviously, I must stress that. There are billions of Muslims, they can't all be terrorists. But, the biggest saftey risk in the UK is Islamist terrorism & the people doing that terrorism are usually.... Muslim. I mean it's hard not to connect two if you're honest about. Apparently it's the Far Right we are supposed to be afraid of. But since the year 2000, roughly 2 or 3 people have been murdered by far right nut cases compared to over 100 by Islamists. So I guess Tommy Robinson is the problem.

[Wonderfulspam]

For balance, most school mass shooters are young White men. Sandy Hook, Columbine etc, although Virginia Tech was an Asian guy & one of the worst school shootings ever.

[Joe Blogs]

Would I be afraid of sitting next to Muslims at an Ariana Grande concert? Absolutely. Not all Muslims are terrorists obviously, I must stress that. There are billions of Muslims, they can't all be terrorists. But, the biggest saftey risk in the UK is Islamist terrorism & the people doing that terrorism are usually.... Muslim. I mean it's hard not to connect two if you're honest about. Apparently it's the Far Right we are supposed to be afraid of. But since the year 2000, roughly 2 or 3 people have been murdered by far right nut cases compared to over 100 by Islamists. So I guess Tommy Robinson is the problem.

A comedian once said, 'not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim'!
Don't think anyone can really argue with that, Spam?

[Wonderfulspam]

A comedian once said, 'not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim'!
Don't think anyone can really argue with that, Spam?

You are a racist & islamaphobe for noticing a pattern.

[Joe Blogs]

For balance, most school mass shooters are young White men. Sandy Hook, Columbine etc, although Virginia Tech was an Asian guy & one of the worst school shootings ever.

Yes, but in some cases we have to separate acts of the 'mentally ill' from 'acts of terrorism', Spam!
There will always be acts of random violence from nutters of all races!
Acts of terrorism are predominantly for radical religious reasons!