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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #19740 on: August 10, 2026, 09:28:14 PM »
It matters not who won or lost but how you play the game, or something or other.
Seriously VS, try listening to a respected US economist who isn't funded by the CIA. It'll take you less than 15 mins at 2x speed & totally destroys Trump. You'll like it I promise. It covers quite a few things. This isn't some crackpot conspiracy theorist. He is a world renown economist & analyst....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYADWPyAmU
No.  There?s no point.  I already accept everything you say is correct.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19741 on: August 10, 2026, 09:43:15 PM »
No.  There?s no point.  I already accept everything you say is correct.

I'm not trying to 'Win'. We grow by challenging our world view. Eg, I thought Trump would be better than Hilary due to Hilary's track record of murdering people around the world & Trump offering something different. I was wrong. He followed the same path as every President. Hostage to US imperialism & the Military Industrial Complex. Post 2016 I grew to understand this by simply challenging my assumptions. I'm not saying Russia is innocent. What I'm saying is, neither is the US & it's worth listening to both sides & then drawing logical conclusions. FYI, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the US declares World War before the end of Trumps term & suspends elections.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19742 on: August 10, 2026, 09:55:43 PM »

It is estimated that for $20-30 Billion dollars the US could end all homelessness in the country. That'll never happen. But, there is a $1.5 Trillion military budget next year. The Biden administration sent $66 billion to Ukraine, rather than ending all homelessness & telling Ukraine to just negotiate.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #19743 on: August 10, 2026, 10:22:16 PM »
I'm not trying to 'Win'. We grow by challenging our world view. Eg, I thought Trump would be better than Hilary due to Hilary's track record of murdering people around the world & Trump offering something different. I was wrong. He followed the same path as every President. Hostage to US imperialism & the Military Industrial Complex. Post 2016 I grew to understand this by simply challenging my assumptions. I'm not saying Russia is innocent. What I'm saying is, neither is the US & it's worth listening to both sides & then drawing logical conclusions. FYI, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the US declares World War before the end of Trumps term & suspends elections.
I?ve never argued that the USA is innocent.  They are completely f..ked up, especially now but they are also our most powerful ally, what are we supposed to do?
I was reading an article today about drone warfare and how it is now technically possible to coordinate thousands of drones to attack a target, just using by one operator or by AI.  Drones can carry explosives, nerve agents, nuclear material and they are cheap to produce and difficult to shoot down en masse.  I was saying drones were bad news for humanity over a dozen years ago and so it has come to pass.  No one, anywhere will be safe from these things, robot wars are the future and soldiers, rockets and tanks will soon be a thing of the past. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #19744 on: August 10, 2026, 10:28:55 PM »
I?ve never argued that the USA is innocent.  They are completely f..ked up, especially now but they are also our most powerful ally, what are we supposed to do?
I was reading an article today about drone warfare and how it is now technically possible to coordinate thousands of drones to attack a target, just using by one operator or by AI.  Drones can carry explosives, nerve agents, nuclear material and they are cheap to produce and difficult to shoot down en masse.  I was saying drones were bad news for humanity over a dozen years ago and so it has come to pass.  No one, anywhere will be safe from these things, robot wars are the future and soldiers, rockets and tanks will soon be a thing of the past.

Yeah, just think, Bush & Blair bare face lied about WMD's in Iraq. So, just be open to question what else the US/UK might lie to us about? But yes, WW1, Machine Gun, caused a near stalemate. WW2, Tanks, Aircraft carriers, now pretty much obsolete as the Iran War shows. Aircraft carriers are floating targets unable to get close enough to fire. WW3, Drones. The US has invested in obsolete aircraft carriers & it cannot produce drones quite fast enough yet compared to low cost effective Iranian drones. US drones cost too much & it it has too much debt to effectively ramp up production compared to Russia, China, Iran.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #19745 on: August 10, 2026, 10:30:07 PM »

Many of the US critical minerals required in advanced missiles & drones are produced in China. The US will need to buy from China to fight China.
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