Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

I?d forgotten how vibrant this forum used to be. Thank you for reminding me VS.

Another example over several pages of you using a dead child's parents' decision to start a charity in their son's name to cast shade on the McCanns.  Are you still truly puzzled by my opinion of your oh-so-innocent post earlier today?

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10881.msg545575#msg545575

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do Daniel?s parents believe that?

Of course not, they're clearly intelligent people.  But YOU do, don't you?  And that is why I suggested that you must think there is something defective in the Morcombes' ability to spot liars and fraudsters for believing the McCanns to be innocent grieving parents.

[faithlilly]

Another example over several pages of you using a dead child's parents' decision to start a charity in their son's name to cast shade on the McCanns.  Are you still truly puzzled by my opinion of your oh-so-innocent post earlier today?

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10881.msg545575#msg545575

Actually yes. Why would the Morecombes starting a foundation throw ?shade? on Madeleine?s parents?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Actually yes. Why would the Morecombes starting a foundation throw ?shade? on Madeleine?s parents?

It doesn't, but your earlier posts including one entitled "Now THIS is how you use a fund for a missing child" and the subsequent McCann Fund-critical posts on that thread and on the other I linked to demonstrate how you used the Morcombes charity as a way of trying to throw shade at the McCanns.  Please don't try and deny it, it's embarrassing for you when the evidence of your own posting history absolutely proves my point.

[faithlilly]

Of course not, they're clearly intelligent people.  But YOU do, don't you?  And that is why I suggested that you must think there is something defective in the Morcombes' ability to spot liars and fraudsters for believing the McCanns to be innocent grieving parents.

Do intelligent people always spot fraudsters?

I?m really confused. What kind of behaviour do you think Madeleine?s parents would display that would alert the Morecombes to the fact that Madeleine hadn?t been abducted?

[faithlilly]

It doesn't, but your earlier posts including one entitled "Now THIS is how you use a fund for a missing child" and the subsequent McCann Fund-critical posts on that thread and on the other I linked to demonstrate how you used the Morcombes charity as a way of trying to throw shade at the McCanns.  Please don't try and deny it, it's embarrassing for you when the evidence of your own posting history absolutely proves my point.

Again how would the Morecombes starting a foundation throw shade on Madeleine?s parents?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do intelligent people always spot fraudsters?

I?m really confused. What kind of behaviour do you think Madeleine?s parents would display that would alert the Morecombes to the fact that Madeleine hadn?t been abducted?

Dear me, poor you, so puzzled and confused this evening.  What behaviour alerted YOU (someone who has never even met them ) to believe that the McCanns are liars and fraudsters?  Any information about them, the Fund, the case etc  you have had to go on has been equally available to the Morcombes and yet they haven't formed the same opinion about the McCanns as you.  Why is that then?  Are they gullible ignorant fools in your opinion?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Again how would the Morecombes starting a foundation throw shade on Madeleine?s parents?

It doesn't, but you seem to think it's relevant on the Madeleine McCann forum and have brought it up several times, including starting a thread about it in this forum called "Now THIS is how you use a fund for a missing child".  Why did you do that?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The Morcombes met the McCanns in 2011 for hours over lunch and described them as "really lovely people".

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-2717387/Daniel-Morcombes-parents-meet-Madeleine-McCanns-parents.html

Are they wrong?  Lying?  Stupid?  Incapable of spotting a wrong 'un even if one is staring you in the face?

They didn't have to meet them. They didn't have to reach out to them via email.  They didn't have to have anything to do with them and wouldn't if they had any doubts about their innocence, but they chose to, and not a word of criticism from them about the Madeleine Fund either.  Amazing.

[faithlilly]

Dear me, poor you, so puzzled and confused this evening.  What behaviour alerted YOU (someone who has never even met them ) to believe that the McCanns are liars and fraudsters?  Any information about them, the Fund, the case etc  you have had to go on has been equally available to the Morcombes and yet they haven't formed the same opinion about the McCanns as you.  Why is that then?  Are they gullible ignorant fools in your opinion?

Again what kind of behaviour do you think Madeleine?s parents would display that would alert the Morecombes to the fact that Madeleine hadn?t been abducted?

[faithlilly]

It doesn't, but you seem to think it's relevant on the Madeleine McCann forum and have brought it up several times, including starting a thread about it in this forum called "Now THIS is how you use a fund for a missing child".  Why did you do that?

So it doesn?t throw shade. Thank you for admitting that.

Daniel Morecombe was a child who disappeared and was later found murdered. Surely even you can see the relevancy and on a off topic thread is even more understandable.

[faithlilly]

The Morcombes met the McCanns in 2011 for hours over lunch and described them as "really lovely people".

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-2717387/Daniel-Morcombes-parents-meet-Madeleine-McCanns-parents.html

Are they wrong?  Lying?  Stupid?  Incapable of spotting a wrong 'un even if one is staring you in the face?

They didn't have to meet them. They didn't have to reach out to them via email.  They didn't have to have anything to do with them and wouldn't if they had any doubts about their innocence, but they chose to, and not a word of criticism from them about the Madeleine Fund either.  Amazing.

You really are looking for a fight, aren?t you?

I have already answered this question.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So it doesn?t throw shade. Thank you for admitting that.

Daniel Morecombe was a child who disappeared and was later found murdered. Surely even you can see the relevancy and on a off topic thread is even more understandable.

It doesn't but that is what you are attempting to do by repeatedly referring to the Daniel Morcombe fund on this forum over the years.  Your posts on the subject prove it and you are being utterly disingenuous by failing to acknowledge that now.
PS: if you will insist on dragging those poor parents into your pathetic arguments against the McCanns at least have the good grace to spell their name correctly!  You have repeatedly misspelled it. It is M-O-R-C-O-M-B-E. 
PPS: Daniel Morcombe was indeed sadly abducted and murdered, something you flatly refuse to accept happened to Madeleine McCann, so where's the relevance, eh?

[Vertigo Swirl]

What this little exchange seems to have established is that as far as Faithlilly is now concerned the Daniel Morcombe Foundation casts no shade whatsoever on the McCanns and the management of the Madeleine Fund, so that's progress.  In years gone by the Morcombes and their Foundation have been repeatedly used to try and cast aspersions on the McCanns but it's great to know that on this occasion Faithlilly was merely updating us on its 20th Anniversary (which incidentally was last year) and that as far as she is now concerned it has no relevance whatsoever to the way the Madeleine Fund has been managed.

Furthermore, we have now established that the McCanns' actions and behaviours both public and private should give no one any reason to consider that they might be anything other than genuinely grieving parents, hiding nothing and entirely earnest in their quest to find out what happened to their daughter.

A good point to draw a line under the discussion for now as we seem to be entirely in agreement on these two points.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh happy day!  Thank you Americans for rejecting Trump's attempted $5000 dollar bribe and for sticking it to the big fat orange tub of inhumanity big time.  Roll on 2028, and this time let's hope the Democrats choose a candidate who most people can get behind.  We don't want JD Vance with his God-driven crusade in the White House do we?