Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 313471 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 05:13:40 PM »
It's clear as the light of day.

Martin Smith changed his mind.

In his original statement (to the Irish Gardia Police at the end of January 2008) Mr Smith was careful to reflect the opinions of all his family with him, as well as his own, and ALL his children disagreed with their father that the man was Gerry, including his daughter Aofe, along with her father, the most observant witness of what the Smiths all saw that night.

What possible (other) reason (than that he changed his mind) would Mr Smith have for originally refusing to produce an efit (end of January 2008), then agreeing to produce one?

It is self-evident that Mr Smith would not produce an e-fit of a man he thought was Gerry ....

So where is the signed and witnessed statement , to this effect ?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2016, 05:17:45 PM »
What does that any of that have to do with the fact that Martin Smith changed his mind (about producing an e-fit, after initially declining to do so)?

Perhaps it was the way Oakley approached him ?
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ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2016, 05:52:52 PM »
Perhaps it was the way Oakley approached him ?

It?

Oakley?

Brian Kennedy asked Martin Smith to produce an e-fit (at the end of January 2008) and he refused.

Then he changed his mind and agreed to produce an efit.

That can only be because he also changed his mind about the identity of the man he and his family saw that night ....

stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2016, 06:08:22 PM »
It?

Oakley?

Brian Kennedy asked Martin Smith to produce an e-fit (at the end of January 2008) and he refused.

Then he changed his mind and agreed to produce an efit.

That can only be because he also changed his mind about the identity of the man he and his family saw that night ....

Supposition.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 06:12:55 PM »

stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2016, 06:18:50 PM »
No, fact.

NOPE.

Just your biased belief as always.

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2016, 06:20:07 PM »
NOPE.

Just your biased belief as always.

Give the logical and reasoned rationale that refutes what I have stated.

stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2016, 06:24:50 PM »
Give the logical and reasoned rationale that refutes what I have stated.

You haven't provided any rational argument.

Kennedy had no business going near the Smith family.

He was interfering in a criminal case, following his own agenda.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2016, 06:26:02 PM »
It's clear as the light of day.

Martin Smith changed his mind.

In his original statement (to the Irish Gardia Police at the end of January 2008) Mr Smith was careful to reflect the opinions of all his family with him, as well as his own, and ALL his children disagreed with their father that the man was Gerry, including his daughter Aofe, along with her father, the most observant witness of what the Smiths all saw that night.

What possible (other) reason (than that he changed his mind) would Mr Smith have for originally refusing to produce an efit (end of January 2008), then agreeing to produce one?

It is self-evident that Mr Smith would not produce an e-fit of a man he thought was Gerry ....

Direct quote by Martin Smith on 16th October 2013 in which he stands by his original police statements;

“The only new thing in the investigation is the elimination of Jane Tanner’s sighting.

“Apart from that from our point of view everything else remains the same in relation to what we said to the police and the media at the time. We have nothing more to add.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328
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ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2016, 06:28:12 PM »
You haven't provided any rational argument.

Kennedy had no business going near the Smith family.

He was interfering in a criminal case, following his own agenda.

In case you hadn't noticed, the title of this thread invites us to discuss whether Martin Smith changed his mind (about producing an e-fit).

But to address your (off-topic) point, is there any evidence Brian Kennedy approached Martin Smith in Portugal?

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2016, 06:34:17 PM »
Direct quote by Martin Smith on 16th October 2013 in which he stands by his original police statements;

“The only new thing in the investigation is the elimination of Jane Tanner’s sighting.

“Apart from that from our point of view everything else remains the same in relation to what we said to the police and the media at the time. We have nothing more to add.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-accuses-2433328

Martin Smith saw no reason to amend the efit.

And has said (in a separate statement) that he no longer believes he saw Gerry.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2016, 06:34:52 PM »
In case you hadn't noticed, the title of this thread invites us to discuss whether Martin Smith changed his mind (about producing an e-fit).

But to address your (off-topic) point, is there any evidence Brian Kennedy approached Martin Smith in Portugal?

In case you hadn't noticed the thread is about whether Mr Smith changed his mind about his 60-80% certainty of the identity of the man he saw.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2016, 06:36:43 PM »
Martin Smith saw no reason to amend the efit.

And has said (in a separate statement) that he no longer believes he saw Gerry.

Could you tell me where I can see that, please?
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2016, 06:37:02 PM »
In case you hadn't noticed the thread is about whether Mr Smith changed his mind about his 60-80% certainty of the identity of the man he saw.

Clear as light of day.

Martin Smith did ....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2016, 06:38:20 PM »
So - Martin Smith hasn't changed his opinion.  He's still 60-80% certain that the man he saw was Gerry McCann.  Why doesn't he tell the e-fit compiler to simply do an e-fit of Gerry's face?