Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292101 times)

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #405 on: March 04, 2016, 02:09:53 PM »
If he had corrected it that would have been tantamount to accusing Gerry McCann of being Smithman. The media would have had a field day with that. Much wiser to let it pass imo.
Why do you think the Smiths' hearts are breaking for the McCanns if they also believe they are guilty of covering up the death of their child?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #406 on: March 04, 2016, 02:36:56 PM »
Why do you think the Smiths' hearts are breaking for the McCanns if they also believe they are guilty of covering up the death of their child?

You are referring to one Smith - the Mrs. The Mr declined to comment.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #407 on: March 04, 2016, 03:04:18 PM »
Obviously witnesses are often told to keep secret their communications with police.
And that is exactly what this witness correctly did.

Proof see Mail Jan 2008 witness quote
"We ... have had no contact with the investigating police since May 26 last year".

In fact the witness was correctly keeping secret the various important communications with Gardai, with Leics Police, and a phonecall with the PJ, in Sept 2007.


Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #408 on: March 04, 2016, 04:19:16 PM »
You are referring to one Smith - the Mrs. The Mr declined to comment.
She appeared to be speaking for both of them.  But OK, let's rephrase the question: given that Mrs Smith's heart is breaking for the McCanns do you think she still agrees with her husband that the man walking through PdL that night was Gerry carrying off his little daughter?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #409 on: March 04, 2016, 04:34:03 PM »
Obviously witnesses are often told to keep secret their communications with police.
And that is exactly what this witness correctly did.

Proof see Mail Jan 2008 witness quote
"We ... have had no contact with the investigating police since May 26 last year".

In fact the witness was correctly keeping secret the various important communications with Gardai, with Leics Police, and a phonecall with the PJ, in Sept 2007.

The Policia Judiciaria under Amaral paid scant attention to the sighting by the Smith family between May and September of 2007.

Appropriately, when Mr Smith made an addendum to his original statement, in the September, they were interested particularly as he declared that the manner in which their prime suspect carried his child reminded him etc etc etc.

Subsequently the PJ under Rebelo showed as much interest as the PJ under Amaral had in the previous five months in anything Mr Smith and his family had to say.

That suggests something to me if not to you.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 04:36:48 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #410 on: March 04, 2016, 04:51:05 PM »
The Policia Judiciaria under Amaral paid scant attention to the sighting by the Smith family between May and September of 2007.

Appropriately, when Mr Smith made an addendum to his original statement, in the September, they were interested particularly as he declared that the manner in which their prime suspect carried his child reminded him etc etc etc.

Subsequently the PJ under Rebelo showed as much interest as the PJ under Amaral had in the previous five months in anything Mr Smith and his family had to say.

That suggests something to me if not to you.
I'm actually on your side on this Brietta.
IMO it's obvious the smith sighting was not of GM and was not of MM.
Very obvious because the man they saw was wearing white or cream trousers, and the girl they saw was wearing long sleeved top.
The sighting has nothing to do with the case IMO.


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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #411 on: March 04, 2016, 04:59:53 PM »
I'm actually on your side on this Brietta.
IMO it's obvious the smith sighting was not of GM and was not of MM.
Very obvious because the man they saw was wearing white or cream trousers, and the girl they saw was wearing long sleeved top.
The sighting has nothing to do with the case IMO.


If this is true,(and I don't dispute it), have OG any credible leads left to pursue?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #412 on: March 04, 2016, 05:44:55 PM »
She appeared to be speaking for both of them.  But OK, let's rephrase the question: given that Mrs Smith's heart is breaking for the McCanns do you think she still agrees with her husband that the man walking through PdL that night was Gerry carrying off his little daughter?

I've no idea what Mrs Smith ever thought nor do I care. It's Mr Smith's opinion we're discussing isn't it? He made no comment.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #413 on: March 04, 2016, 05:47:28 PM »
I've no idea what Mrs Smith ever thought nor do I care. It's Mr Smith's opinion we're discussing isn't it? He made no comment.
Was she not in agreement with her husband originally?  Why is her opinion of no value to you?  When she talks about "our hearts" do you think she is using the Royal We?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #414 on: March 04, 2016, 06:38:18 PM »
I've no idea what Mrs Smith ever thought nor do I care. It's Mr Smith's opinion we're discussing isn't it? He made no comment.

This is what she said:

quote

We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.
End quote

She clearly is not speaking just for herself.

What possible other interpretation can be put on the words..... ''as it would be if it were one of ours''...... other than..... ''as it would be if it were one of our children''?

It's as clear as crystal that Mrs Smith is speaking for her husband as well as herself imo.


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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #415 on: March 04, 2016, 07:56:38 PM »
Only Martin Smith knows what martin Smith believes.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #416 on: March 04, 2016, 08:00:08 PM »
Only Martin Smith knows what martin Smith believes.

his wife would have a good idea

Offline jassi

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #417 on: March 04, 2016, 08:04:18 PM »
his wife would have a good idea

Yes, but she can't know for sure, can she?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #418 on: March 04, 2016, 08:08:40 PM »

If this is true,(and I don't dispute it), have OG any credible leads left to pursue?
IMO everyone (including all the SIOs) have been tricked into the "open carrying of visible child" mantra, to the complete exclusion of all realistic theories. Time to look at some realistic leads instead IMO.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #419 on: March 04, 2016, 08:10:40 PM »
Different circumstances. No car. He had to walk away with the child.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 08:12:45 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.