Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 313673 times)

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Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #210 on: February 26, 2016, 10:53:45 PM »
Heh, I may actually take you up on that someday. Portugal is somewhere I have wanted to go for a while.

Thank you. I haven't read the whole thread or anything but I would have thought I was not the only person to point out how ridiculous the Smith signing was. Not the sighting in itself, but the identification of Gerry some months on. You cannot identify someone by the way they carry a child, as if each way of holding is unique to each person...its crazy

Not to smear Smith or anything, but my gut feeling was that  Gerry was fingered purely to get the blame off Murat (who I also think is innocent, weird, but innocent) given part of his statement was that the person he saw was definitely NOT Murat...

I don't think Smith had to finger anyone to just state it wasn't Murat and IIRC (I could be wrong) he said it wasn't Murat before he said the man reminded him of Gerry


ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #211 on: February 26, 2016, 11:01:44 PM »
I think that the doubts which suddenly beset Mr Smith classically illustrate why, in England, we have sub judice laws; precisely to avoid the type of bias that can arise from intense publicity and speculation about the facts surrounding a criminal enquiry ....

Offline Vicky

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #212 on: February 26, 2016, 11:12:33 PM »
I don't think Smith had to finger anyone to just state it wasn't Murat and IIRC (I could be wrong) he said it wasn't Murat before he said the man reminded him of Gerry
Yeah I guess thats true. I just always found the Smith thing weird because he said he was so sure it was Gerry then went on to say it was the way the child was being held. Which is...strange. I could not identify someone I saw months ago by the way they held something, I don't think  @)(++(*

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #213 on: February 26, 2016, 11:15:37 PM »
Yeah I guess thats true. I just always found the Smith thing weird because he said he was so sure it was Gerry then went on to say it was the way the child was being held. Which is...strange. I could not identify someone I saw months ago by the way they held something, I don't think  @)(++(*

I can't get past the fact MS didn't sleep for 2 weeks before he finally got around to speaking to the police again regarding his revelation moment.

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #214 on: February 26, 2016, 11:17:12 PM »
Yeah I guess thats true. I just always found the Smith thing weird because he said he was so sure it was Gerry then went on to say it was the way the child was being held. Which is...strange. I could not identify someone I saw months ago by the way they held something, I don't think  @)(++(*

I see what you mean, but sometimes a small thing that is especially standing out might trigger a memory

Thepolice said he was shaken when he made the phone call....I don't doubt his honesty! no one knows if it was Gerry or not, apart from Gerry and the abductor if he exists


Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #215 on: February 26, 2016, 11:22:42 PM »
I see what you mean, but sometimes a small thing that is especially standing out might trigger a memory

Thepolice said he was shaken when he made the phone call....I don't doubt his honesty! no one knows if it was Gerry or not, apart from Gerry and the abductor if he exists
and all the people who were with Gerry at the time of the sighting.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #216 on: February 26, 2016, 11:25:42 PM »
and all the people who were with Gerry at the time of the sighting.

None of who were independent witnesses.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #217 on: February 26, 2016, 11:28:05 PM »
None of who were independent witnesses.
independent of what?

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #218 on: February 26, 2016, 11:29:00 PM »
and all the people who were with Gerry at the time of the sighting.

a bunch of probBly half drunk people? Who couldn't remember what day it was half the time in their statements, yea, ok

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #219 on: February 26, 2016, 11:31:14 PM »
a bunch of probBly half drunk people? Who couldn't remember what day it was half the time in their statements, yea, ok
How drunk were the Smiths then?

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #220 on: February 26, 2016, 11:32:18 PM »
How drunk were the Smiths then?

Irrelevant isn't it and changing goalposts again?


Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #221 on: February 26, 2016, 11:33:08 PM »
How drunk were the Smiths then?

Oh, very drunk, I would say.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #222 on: February 26, 2016, 11:35:30 PM »
Irrelevant isn't it and changing goalposts again?
No it's not irrelevant.  You have made an unsubstantiated claim that the Tapas Group were "half-drunk" and therefore their witness testimony that Gerry was with them at the time of the Smith sighting cannot be relied on.  My question is: how reliable is the Smiths testimony if they had been drinking too?  After all, they seemed to have very severe short term memory problems in the aftermath of the disappearance!

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #223 on: February 26, 2016, 11:36:33 PM »
independent of what?

The McCanns of course.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #224 on: February 26, 2016, 11:36:40 PM »
Oh, very drunk, I would say.
yeah, at least half-drunk, maybe three-quarters even!