Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292093 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #390 on: March 04, 2016, 02:03:20 AM »
Perhaps he did not want to get dragged into all the crap again...after all he has a life......

IMO Martin Smith was determined that his family would not be dragged into 'all that crap again' and that is the main reason why he very quickly jumped on anyone who misrepresented him in the press.   It's obvious that he did not make any complaints to the Sunday Times about their claim that he had since changed his mind about GM - and IMO if that was an incorrect claim he would have contacted them and demanded a retraction - in the same way as he did on previous occasions.   The fact that he didn't do that speaks for itself imo.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #391 on: March 04, 2016, 02:14:11 AM »
SY & the PJ are not pursuing Smithman as a significant line of inquiry IMO.
I never understood why they focussed on the unlikely method of open uncontained carrying.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 02:17:30 AM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #392 on: March 04, 2016, 02:33:56 AM »
IMO Martin Smith was determined that his family would not be dragged into 'all that crap again' and that is the main reason why he very quickly jumped on anyone who misrepresented him in the press.   It's obvious that he did not make any complaints to the Sunday Times about their claim that he had since changed his mind about GM - and IMO if that was an incorrect claim he would have contacted them and demanded a retraction - in the same way as he did on previous occasions.   The fact that he didn't do that speaks for itself imo.

No, its not the same as previous occasions, not the crap he did have ,in 2007 our illustrious media en masse were practically doorstepping him, misquoting him, he was being contacted by Kennedy/PIs....none of that is happening now, just a single reference to what he has alledgedly said (with no quotes btw) and IMO he probably is just keeping out of it, cant be arsed and right too

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #393 on: March 04, 2016, 02:51:17 AM »
I never understood why they focussed on the unlikely method of open uncontained carrying.

Its not as if its really unusual

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #394 on: March 04, 2016, 06:44:13 AM »
IMO Martin Smith was determined that his family would not be dragged into 'all that crap again' and that is the main reason why he very quickly jumped on anyone who misrepresented him in the press.   It's obvious that he did not make any complaints to the Sunday Times about their claim that he had since changed his mind about GM - and IMO if that was an incorrect claim he would have contacted them and demanded a retraction - in the same way as he did on previous occasions.   The fact that he didn't do that speaks for itself imo.

If he had corrected it that would have been tantamount to accusing Gerry McCann of being Smithman. The media would have had a field day with that. Much wiser to let it pass imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #395 on: March 04, 2016, 07:25:39 AM »
I can see a very obvious reason why an innocent smithman would not come forward, particularly if he was portuguese. He would fear he might be persuaded to confess

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #396 on: March 04, 2016, 07:52:58 AM »
I can see a very obvious reason why an innocent smithman would not come forward, particularly if he was portuguese. He would fear he might be persuaded to confess

You mean he has also managed to mislay the little girl he was carrying that night?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #397 on: March 04, 2016, 08:01:18 AM »
You mean he has also managed to mislay the little girl he was carrying that night?

nope...as sl has pointed out...and she lives in portugal...he would be required to prove his innocencve...read her post

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #398 on: March 04, 2016, 08:14:51 AM »
nope...as sl has pointed out...and she lives in portugal...he would be required to prove his innocencve...read her post

They all said the girl looked British white not Portuguese. Actually a Madeleine clone.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #399 on: March 04, 2016, 08:24:38 AM »
They all said the girl looked British white not Portuguese. Actually a Madeleine clone.

aren't there lots of blonde portuguese girls, and it was dark...they never mentioned  a madeleine clone

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #400 on: March 04, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »
aren't there lots of blonde portuguese girls, and it was dark...they never mentioned  a madeleine clone

He cannot state this as fact but is convinced that it could have been MADELEINE, also the opinion shared by his family.

She had blonde hair, of medium shade, not very light. Her skin was white, typically British.

The child has blonde medium-hued hair, without being very light. Her skin was very white, typical of a Brit.

The child was female because she had straight long hair to the neck. The colour was fair/light brown. 

She is certain that the child was about four years old because her niece (who was in the group) is of the same age and they were the same size.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 08:46:47 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #401 on: March 04, 2016, 08:43:35 AM »
If he had corrected it that would have been tantamount to accusing Gerry McCann of being Smithman. The media would have had a field day with that. Much wiser to let it pass imo.

Anyone who thinks Mrs Smith would say the following if she and her husband still thought the McCanns may be complicit in their daughter's disappearance is being completely illogical IMO.   

Why would they be expressing such heartfelt sympathy for the couple who they still believed may have disposed of their own daughter's body in such a callous manner?   That simply makes no sense at all imo.

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We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''
End quote


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #402 on: March 04, 2016, 09:05:32 AM »
Anyone who thinks Mrs Smith would say the following if she and her husband still thought the McCanns may be complicit in their daughter's disappearance is being completely illogical IMO.   

Why would they be expressing such heartfelt sympathy for the couple who they still believed may have disposed of their own daughter's body in such a callous manner?   That simply makes no sense at all imo.

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We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''
End quote

I presume you can provide a cite to show Mrs. Smith actually said this. 8)-)))


ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #403 on: March 04, 2016, 11:14:14 AM »
IMO Martin Smith was determined that his family would not be dragged into 'all that crap again' and that is the main reason why he very quickly jumped on anyone who misrepresented him in the press.   It's obvious that he did not make any complaints to the Sunday Times about their claim that he had since changed his mind about GM - and IMO if that was an incorrect claim he would have contacted them and demanded a retraction - in the same way as he did on previous occasions.   The fact that he didn't do that speaks for itself imo.

Even more so, the statement of his wife, after release of the files, that they will do all they can to support the McCanns, and their heart goes out to the McCanns.

Very odd things to say if she (or her husband) countenance (still!) that the man the family all saw that night is Gerry.

Entirely explicable if they have changed their minds (all of them).

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #404 on: March 04, 2016, 11:40:51 AM »
Anyone who thinks Mrs Smith would say the following if she and her husband still thought the McCanns may be complicit in their daughter's disappearance is being completely illogical IMO.   

Why would they be expressing such heartfelt sympathy for the couple who they still believed may have disposed of their own daughter's body in such a callous manner?   That simply makes no sense at all imo.

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We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''
End quote

It wouldn't be sensible for any of the Smiths to accuse the child's father of anything when speaking to the newspapers, now would it? Especially as they couldn't make a definite identification. Mr Smith based his statement purely on the mannerisms of the man he saw and he could easily have been wrong. His wife said;

''The man he saw had the same stature as Gerry McCann.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

So we have a man with the same build, with a similar hairstyle and colour, carrying a child of the right age, hairstyle and colour. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
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