Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292091 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #480 on: March 06, 2016, 12:13:31 PM »
Mrs Fenn offered her phone to call the police but Gerry said they had been when they hadn't. This was at 10:30. Police call was 10:41.

Gerry was under the impression that the police had already been called at that stage - and was getting anxious because they hadn't arrived.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #481 on: March 06, 2016, 12:20:29 PM »
Gerry was under the impression that the police had already been called at that stage - and was getting anxious because they hadn't arrived.

The McCanns should have called instead of presuming it. They said we knew she had been abducted straight away but it takes 45 minutes to call the police. That doesn't add up. Deleting phone call history by the 4th doesn't either. You must think detectives are born yesterday to believe Carry On Madeleine. They should be able to rip that timeline apart by the time this case is over.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #482 on: March 06, 2016, 12:23:26 PM »
Gerry was under the impression that the police had already been called at that stage - and was getting anxious because they hadn't arrived.

Then surely any help to get things moving would have been appreciated ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #483 on: March 06, 2016, 12:25:30 PM »
The McCanns should have called instead of presuming it. They said we knew she had been abducted straight away but it takes 45 minutes to call the police. That doesn't add up. Deleting phone call history by the 4th doesn't either. You must think detectives are born yesterday to believe Carry On Madeleine. They should be able to rip that timeline apart by the time this case is over.

Any particular reason you think Mrs Fenn waited 45 mins before venturing onto her balcony to investigate the mass hysteria going on underneath her apartment?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #484 on: March 06, 2016, 12:27:27 PM »
Any particular reason you think Mrs Fenn waited 45 mins before venturing onto her balcony to investigate the mass hysteria going on underneath her apartment?
Because there was no mass hysteria apparently.  They all got back to the apartment and started planning the timeline according to Faithlilly.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #485 on: March 06, 2016, 12:32:08 PM »
Any particular reason you think Mrs Fenn waited 45 mins before venturing onto her balcony to investigate the mass hysteria going on underneath her apartment?

Mrs Fenn heard nothing until the end of News at 10 - Kate wailing outside. She came out and asked what is all this noise and Kate and Fiona told her to get lost. She then talked to Gerry and he said a little girl had been abducted. She offered her phone to call the police and he said it was done.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #486 on: March 06, 2016, 12:33:47 PM »
Because there was no mass hysteria apparently.  They all got back to the apartment and started planning the timeline according to Faithlilly.

What - no fighting over the crayons?

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #487 on: March 06, 2016, 12:35:59 PM »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #488 on: March 06, 2016, 12:47:18 PM »
Because there was no mass hysteria apparently.  They all got back to the apartment and started planning the timeline according to Faithlilly.

Or running about like headless chickens asking for the police to be called, a claim there is no evidence for. Perhaps if you concentrated on finding evidence for Kate's claims rather than picking holes in mine you may actually get somewhere.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #489 on: March 06, 2016, 12:52:13 PM »
Or running about like headless chickens asking for the police to be called, a claim there is no evidence for. Perhaps if you concentrated on finding evidence for Kate's claims rather than picking holes in mine you may actually get somewhere.
I'm not interested in getting anywhere in particular, picking holes in your daft statements is sufficient diversion for me today thanks. 8(0(*

Offline Carana

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #490 on: March 06, 2016, 12:59:50 PM »
Mrs Fenn heard nothing until the end of News at 10 - Kate wailing outside. She came out and asked what is all this noise and Kate and Fiona told her to get lost. She then talked to Gerry and he said a little girl had been abducted. She offered her phone to call the police and he said it was done.

Are you saying that she didn't hear a rumpus outside until she'd finished watching the News at 10?

Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #491 on: March 06, 2016, 01:04:32 PM »
The McCanns should have called instead of presuming it. They said we knew she had been abducted straight away but it takes 45 minutes to call the police. That doesn't add up. Deleting phone call history by the 4th doesn't either. You must think detectives are born yesterday to believe Carry On Madeleine. They should be able to rip that timeline apart by the time this case is over.

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?   

The very detectives whom you yourself state weren't born yesterday don't have a problem with the timelines.   That should tell you something.   Unless of course you believe there is a huge conspiratorial  bluff in progress and the PJ/ SY are suddenly going to pounce on the McCanns and arrest them.   If so - don't hold your breath.

   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #492 on: March 06, 2016, 01:07:02 PM »
The McCanns should have called instead of presuming it. They said we knew she had been abducted straight away but it takes 45 minutes to call the police. That doesn't add up. Deleting phone call history by the 4th doesn't either. You must think detectives are born yesterday to believe Carry On Madeleine. They should be able to rip that timeline apart by the time this case is over.
What are they waiting for then?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #493 on: March 06, 2016, 01:17:32 PM »
I'm not interested in getting anywhere in particular, picking holes in your daft statements is sufficient diversion for me today thanks. 8(0(*

So when do you start ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #494 on: March 06, 2016, 01:35:44 PM »
So when do you start ?
According to your last post I had already started.  I have also started a whole new thread to pick holes in your daft statement, and so far not a peep from you to defend your claim that there was no frantic activity from the Tapas group after the alarm was raised as they were all huddled together writing out the timeline.