Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?

[faithlilly]

Again, what explanation do you have?  You seem to think it's highly plausible that a father should carry the uncovered corpse of his dead child through a holiday town past holidaymakers in order to find a suitable bin to throw it in, so clearly your threshold of credibility is quite high.

This is not about me. You have stated two scenarios which are implausible by any stretch of the imagination.

[Alfred R Jones]

This is not about me. You have stated two scenarios which are implausible by any stretch of the imagination.

So give me a black mark and sit me in the corner. 

[faithlilly]

The straw-clutching is by those who think Martin Smith (or, for that matter, his wife, Mary) would have produced efits of a man either thought was Gerry (and Mrs Smith is on record, since publication of the files) as saying that they stand ready to help the McCanns in any way they can.

And Martin Smith is on record as saying the evidence given to the police in 2007 still stands. Sooooo where do we go from here ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Faithlilly's explanation.

The Met think it was Gerry wot dunnit.  They think JT lied about her sighting.  They think Gerry got her to say she saw a man carrying a child whilst at the same time as she saw Gerry talking to Jez Wilkins, a man that was dressed similar to him, reason being Gerry knew he'd been spotted by the Smiths carrying the uncovered corpse of his daughter through the streets of PdL and just prior to the alarm being raised re her disappearance and moments before he dumped the child's body in a bin, hoping it would soon be discovered and the sedatives in it blamed on an abductor.  Sadly for Gerry it all went horribly wrong when the bin collectors took the body away and dumped it in landfill never to be found again.  No one knows why JT would agree to take part in such an awful lie but hey ho, perhaps she had a crush on Gerry.  He later dobbed her right in it by claiming he never saw her walking past, but then that had something to do with possibly being observed by someone else on a balcony.  You never can be too sure who's watching and far better to dob your only alibi in it than risk being rumbled by an eagle eyed holiday maker who may or may not exist.

So anyway, in order to completely freak out JT and the McCanns, the Met invented Crecheman and intreoduced him to the nation on the Crimewatch programme.  Unfortunately it didn't freak them out enough and neither has cracked so far.  Never mind, the Met want us to look for Smithman (them knowing all along it's Gerry) and that's why they issued a couple of not-very-good e-fits of Gerry McCann, so the next time you see Gerry at the supermarket or at the hospital be sure to call Operation Grange and report that you have found Smithman. 

It all makes perfect sense dunnit?

[ferryman]

And Martin Smith is on record as saying the evidence given to the police in 2007 still stands. Sooooo where do we go from here ?

Educate yourself on what Martin Smith is on record as saying, and what he is not:

Commenting on the Crimewatch documentary which was broadcast on Monday night he [Martin Smith] added: “The only new thing in the investigation is the elimination of Jane Tanner’s sighting.

“Apart from that from our point of view everything else remains the same in relation to what we said to the police and the media at the time. We have nothing more to add.”

At the time covers the period 2008.

ETA: We know that at the end of January 2008 he hadn't produced an efit, because he said (in his statement to Gardia police at that date) that he hadn't ....

[faithlilly]

Educate yourself on what Martin Smith is on record as saying, and what he is not:

Commenting on the Crimewatch documentary which was broadcast on Monday night he [Martin Smith] added: “The only new thing in the investigation is the elimination of Jane Tanner’s sighting.

“Apart from that from our point of view everything else remains the same in relation to what we said to the police and the media at the time. We have nothing more to add.”

At the time covers the period 2008.

ETA: We know that at the end of January 2008 he hadn't produced an efit, because he said (in his statement to Gardia police at that date) that he hadn't ....

Martin Smith didn't speak to the police after his statement to the Irish police.

[ferryman]

Martin Smith didn't speak to the police after his statement to the Irish police.

So he was interpreting private investigators as police.

And your point is? ....

[faithlilly]

So he was interpreting private investigators as police.

And your point is? ....

Was he ? Perhaps you can supply an example where he has used the word police when actually talking about the McCann's PIs ?

[ferryman]

Was he ? Perhaps you can supply an example where he has used the word police when actually talking about the McCann's PIs ?

Perhaps you can provide an example of where he talks about the McCanns' PIs?

[stephen25000]

Perhaps you can provide an example of where he talks about the McCanns' PIs?

What about Kennedy ? 

He was interfering with possibly a key witness.

[faithlilly]

Perhaps you can provide an example of where he talks about the McCanns' PIs?

I'm no making the claim. You claimed the Smiths had used the word 'police' to describe the McCann's PIs. To know that you'd have to have an example of them doing it previously. So on you go.......!

[Brietta]

"...Everything else remains the same in relation to what we said to the police and the media at the time."

He never told the media about his Gerry-doubt, did he? If not, when is "at the time"? Has he spoken to the media since the not-Murat episode?

Not only did he not speak to the media ... he took legal action against newspaper intrusion.

[ferryman]

I'm no making the claim. You claimed the Smiths had used the word 'police' to describe the McCann's PIs. To know that you'd have to have an example of them doing it previously. So on you go.......!

The time covers the period 2008.

At the end of January 2008 Martin Smith still hadn't produced an efit.

What changed (after the end of January 2008) to prompt him to do so?

[faithlilly]

The time covers the period 2008.

At the end of January 2008 Martin Smith still hadn't produced an efit.

What changed (after the end of January 2008) to prompt him to do so?

Do you have an example of the Smiths using the word 'police' to mean the McCann's PIs ferryman ?

[ferryman]

Do you have an example of the Smiths using the word 'police' to mean the McCann's PIs ferryman ?

Do you have an example of Mr Smith referring to PIs?