Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?

[pathfinder73]

IIRC - according to Martin Grime - washing clothes - even in a washing machine doesn't remove cadaverscent.

That's not the point. Would they know it? He wanted to identify the clothes that were washed.

[Alfred R Jones]

The dogs only examined the clothes that were present 3 months after the fact.

“At the time we had not established exactly which clothes Gerry was wearing on the night of the disappearance nor which clothes were handed in to be washed on 5th May”, says Gonçalo Amaral

“Last Saturday (05/05/2007) I received a bag of clothes brought in by Mark Warner staff, and was told expressly that these belonged to Madeleine’s family – there was adult clothing (male and female) and children’s clothing… “, states one of the laundry workers.

How do you explain the fact that the dog DID alert to clothes belonging to Kate and the children then?  How do you account for the fact that Gerry's jacket which was photographed on the back of the sofa, the one you claim he wore when carrying out his wicked deed, and against which a corpse would have been held tight, did not leave cadaver scent on the sofa itself?

[Alfred R Jones]

That's not the point. Would they know it? He wanted to identify the clothes that were washed.

Yes it IS the point.  CLothes worn by the body carrier = no cadaver scent.  Explain it.

[stephen25000]

Yes it IS the point.  CLothes worn by the body carrier = no cadaver scent.  Explain it.

The forensic testing, did not confirm anything, one way or the other.

[Alfred R Jones]

The forensic testing, did not confirm anything, one way or the other.

Explain why the dog did not alert to any item of Gerry's clothing, which would have been contaminated with cadaver scent, which cannot be removed by washing but which can be transferred from one item of clothing to another, or to fabric on a sofa?  Can you explain it?  No you cannot.

[stephen25000]

Explain why the dog did not alert to any item of Gerry's clothing, which would have been contaminated with cadaver scent, which cannot be removed by washing but which can be transferred from one item of clothing to another, or to fabric on a sofa?  Can you explain it?  No you cannot.

It would depend on several factors Alfred.

What kind of training have you had in Science ?

[Alfred R Jones]

It would depend on several factors Alfred.

What kind of training have you had in Science ?

None, so tell me what it would depend on then, off you go...

[stephen25000]

None, so tell me what it would depend on then, off you go...

Again, I have given you a few examples of variables before.

You need to pay attention and learn.

[Alfred R Jones]

Again, I have given you a few examples of variables before.

You need to pay attention and learn.

Stop patronizing me and just tell me now. 

[stephen25000]

Stop patronizing me and just tell me now.

Are you incapable of working it out for yourself.

[Alfred R Jones]

Are you incapable of working it out for yourself.

Yes I am incapable of working it out so please tell me why the dogs did not alert to the back of the sofa, nor to any of Gerry's clothes, whilst alerting to items of clothing belonging to other family members.

[stephen25000]

Yes I am incapable of working it out so please tell me why the dogs did not alert to the back of the sofa, nor to any of Gerry's clothes, whilst alerting to items of clothing belonging to other family members.

Look it up Alfred.

[Alfred R Jones]

Look it up Alfred.

Where would I look?  Why are you incapable of simply telling me now?  Here's a perfect opportunity for you to shine and put me in my place, to demonstrate your superior scientific and logic skills - over to you.

[stephen25000]

Where would I look?  Why are you incapable of simply telling me now?  Here's a perfect opportunity for you to shine and put me in my place, to demonstrate your superior scientific and logic skills - over to you.

I gave you a few points the other day.

It is not my responsibility if you are incapable of looking them up and apply logic to the situation.

[Alfred R Jones]

I gave you a few points the other day.

It is not my responsibility if you are incapable of looking them up and apply logic to the situation.

Cite please.

I'm beginning to think you can't actually come up with any reasonable explanation for why the dogs did not alert to Gerry's clothes.  Not one single reason.