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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1185 on: March 29, 2016, 11:00:07 AM »
There are many diligences and details not in the published files GUnit. For example the 9th May search is in the published files (although omitting the fact that british police were included), but another search at same building 2 weeks later is not in the published files.

Do you have cites for what you say about the British police and the later visit please?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1186 on: March 29, 2016, 12:09:06 PM »
"on the days right after" is Sol's text, not a direct quote of what the lady said, therefore IMO it's possible the muffled cry was heard on night of 3rd but not reported until 5th.

It's possible that muffled cries were heard all over Luz every night but that's not what the report says.

Anything is possible and it is perfectly acceptable to offer an interpretation of evidence already in the public domain but to second guess that evidence just to suit your particular theory is not.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1187 on: March 29, 2016, 07:04:24 PM »
Do you have cites for what you say about the British police and the later visit please?
"entraram na minha casa seis polícias, alguns dos quais ingleses"
= 6 police officers, some of them british, entered my home
"na quarta-feira voltou a ser visitada pelos inspectores da PJ"
= on wednesday PJ officers visited again
Diário de Notícias 02 Jun 2007
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1188 on: March 29, 2016, 07:12:42 PM »
"entraram na minha casa seis polícias, alguns dos quais ingleses"
= 6 police officers, some of them british, entered my home
"na quarta-feira voltou a ser visitada pelos inspectores da PJ"
= on wednesday PJ officers visited again
Diário de Notícias 02 Jun 2007

That's a bit sparse with no link to anything.

Who said it, who to, what was the reason for the visits, what were the dates of the visits?
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Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1189 on: March 29, 2016, 07:25:10 PM »
It's possible that muffled cries were heard all over Luz every night but that's not what the report says.

Anything is possible and it is perfectly acceptable to offer an interpretation of evidence already in the public domain but to second guess that evidence just to suit your particular theory is not.
There was a 5th May search due to a report of a muffled cry, that's what a lady told the Sol journalist, it's not part of any theory Faithliily.

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1190 on: March 29, 2016, 07:37:46 PM »
That's a bit sparse with no link to anything.

Who said it, who to, what was the reason for the visits, what were the dates of the visits?
Female occupant. DN journalist. Anon phonecall. 9 and 30 May IMO.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1191 on: March 29, 2016, 09:59:33 PM »
Female occupant. DN journalist. Anon phonecall. 9 and 30 May IMO.

Unverifiable rumour IMO.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1192 on: March 29, 2016, 10:06:02 PM »
Unverifiable rumour IMO.
The 9 May search and the reason for it are in the files G-unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1193 on: March 29, 2016, 10:14:40 PM »
The 9 May search and the reason for it are in the files G-unit.

I know pegasus. I posted it and provided a link also. It had nothing to do with muffled cries. Two PJ people attended and that's all.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1194 on: March 29, 2016, 10:34:24 PM »
I know pegasus. I posted it and provided a link also. It had nothing to do with muffled cries. Two PJ people attended and that's all.
You asked for cite for UK police at the 9 May search and I posted it.

The search on 5 May was same building different apartment 2 PJ officers no UK.

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1195 on: March 29, 2016, 11:23:17 PM »
You asked for cite for UK police at the 9 May search and I posted it.

The search on 5 May was same building different apartment 2 PJ officers no UK.

Why are people posting the cries/screams came from ocean club staff quarters? Are they in same building?

Sol article for anyone interested
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Silvia lives at the apartment block 'Pedras Brancas', which was inspected by the Policia Judiciaria (PJ). On the days right after the disappearance of Madeleine, a muffled cry that came from that location raised suspicions.

"On Saturday, around half past midnight, two inspectors from the Judiciaria asked to enter my home. My daughter was four months old back then. They looked at her often, they walked around the bathroom, the kitchen, they even peeked into the laundry basket", she recalls. The reports follow one another on the same subject, because on that night the PJ visited other homes, leaving the inhabitants restless and disturbed. "We didn't want to risk someone watching us talking to the PJ, like it happened with Luis, Robert Murat's friend. After the police talked to him, he never got himself another pool to clean", Silvia remembers.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1196 on: March 30, 2016, 01:28:22 PM »
There was a 5th May search due to a report of a muffled cry, that's what a lady told the Sol journalist, it's not part of any theory Faithliily.

But you have no evidence a cry was heard on the 3rd do you ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1197 on: March 31, 2016, 02:48:37 AM »
But you have no evidence a cry was heard on the 3rd do you ?
What that lady told Sol indicates IMO that there was a muffled cry probably on the 5th, latest.
The lady refers to a search on saturday and from the context the way I read it that means the 5th IMO.

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1198 on: March 31, 2016, 03:15:56 AM »
What that lady told Sol indicates IMO that there was a muffled cry probably on the 5th, latest.
The lady refers to a search on saturday and from the context the way I read it that means the 5th IMO.

She also refers to Luis Antonio, who wasn't even on the PJ radar on the 5th May. Maybe the dates were incorrect or it was another piece of duff information being leaked to Sol by the source close to the investigation.

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1199 on: March 31, 2016, 08:35:32 AM »
She also refers to Luis Antonio, who wasn't even on the PJ radar on the 5th May. Maybe the dates were incorrect or it was another piece of duff information being leaked to Sol by the source close to the investigation.


It seems that Sol were heavily involved in shaping the direction of public perception about the events of 3 May, the perception of fellow journalists being that they had an impeccable source for their information.


**snip
The first public indication of police thinking came at the end of June when the magazine Sol published a story about the McCann group, casting doubts on their evidence and claiming they had undertaken a pact of silence. It was the first time the McCanns’ friends had been named in public, but Sol’s journalist Felicia Cabrita had their names and phone numbers and details from their witness statements. She had called them all, and at least one other witness, Jes Wilkins.

The information had been handed to Cabrita by the police – she says she acquired the material through good journalism, which in a sense it was – and her source is widely believed by her colleagues to have been the former head of the inquiry, Goncalo Amaral.
http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/9dec7/TIMES_16_12_07.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....