Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?

[faithlilly]

What that lady told Sol indicates IMO that there was a muffled cry probably on the 5th, latest.
The lady refers to a search on saturday and from the context the way I read it that means the 5th IMO.

So we're agreed. There is no evidence a cry was heard on the 3rd.

[pegasus]

So we're agreed. There is no evidence a cry was heard on the 3rd.

There's no evidence released anywhere of a muffled cry. All there is is this unofficial indication in a press article. The date is open to interpretation and IMO the most probable interpretation is 5th, but there is not enough information to be sure of that.

[ferryman]

There's no evidence released anywhere of a muffled cry. All there is is this unofficial indication in a press article. The date is open to interpretation and IMO the most probable interpretation is 5th, but there is not enough information to be sure of that.

We don't see the statement of Stephen Carpenter's wife.

But didn't Stephen Carpenter comment that she heard a cry of some sort?

[mercury]

We don't see the statement of Stephen Carpenter's wife.

But didn't Stephen Carpenter comment that she heard a cry of some sort?

No,he said his wife vaguely remembered someone callng "Madeleine, Madeleine" on their way home from Tapas between 9.30-9.45 pm on 3rd May

@Misty, that SOL article was written in sept 07 (re pool cleaner)

[ferryman]

No,he said his wife vaguely remembered someone callng "Madeleine, Madeleine" on their way home from Tapas between 9.30-9.45 pm on 3rd May

@Misty, that SOL article was written in sept 07 (re pool cleaner)

OK, thank you.

Yes, you're right.

[mercury]

OK, thank you.

Yes, you're right.

No worries.

[pegasus]

We don't see the statement of Stephen Carpenter's wife.

But didn't Stephen Carpenter comment that she heard a cry of some sort?

Yes SC states that his wife, on way home from Tapas restaurant to their apartment, thought she heard someone shouting the girls name.

The C family left Tapas very soon after the T7 arrived at Tapas http://youtu.be/Zqoj-pfBUnY?t=7m14s

[mercury]

Yes SC states that his wife, on way home from Tapas restaurant to their apartment, thought she heard someone shouting the girls name.

The C family left Tapas very soon after the T7 arrived at Tapas http://youtu.be/Zqoj-pfBUnY?t=7m14s

?? And?

[pegasus]

?? And?

GM says CC left tapas soon after at least some of T7 arrived at tapas.
Therefore if CC on way home did hear someone searching, it would mean someone discovered child missing long before KM did.
 

[G-Unit]

GM says CC left tapas soon after at least some of T7 arrived at tapas.
Therefore if CC on way home did hear someone searching, it would mean someone discovered child missing long before KM did.

According to Carpenter the T9 were all seated a while before 9pm;

At approximately half past eight, Gerry and Kate and their group of approximately ten people were already seated at their table, which was so close to ours that it was possible to converse with them
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN-CARPENTER.htm

[faithlilly]

GM says CC left tapas soon after at least some of T7 arrived at tapas.
Therefore if CC on way home did hear someone searching, it would mean someone discovered child missing long before KM did.

It certainly could Pegasus.

[mercury]

GM says CC left tapas soon after at least some of T7 arrived at tapas.
Therefore if CC on way home did hear someone searching, it would mean someone discovered child missing long before KM did.

MO?

But no, why wouldnt he say anything..or perhaps he didnt discover she was missing, just didnt LOOK in her room but LOOKED for her in her parents bedroom...why did he do that?

Fact remains if CC was correct in her recollection someone was calling Madeleine at 9,15-9.30 pm whch needs explaining...

Source, his and his wifes rogatory interviews

[Brietta]

MO?

But no, why wouldnt he say anything..or perhaps he didnt discover she was missing, just didnt LOOK in her room but LOOKED for her in her parents bedroom...why did he do that?

Fact remains if CC was correct in her recollection someone was calling Madeleine at 9,15-9.30 pm whch needs explaining...

Source, his and his wifes rogatory interviews

We haven't seen Carolyn Carter's interviews therefore we have no idea what she may have said in them.

[Eleanor]

I don't suppose we could have a bit more of Full Names, could we?

This is not a criticism, but I am occasionally lost for knowing who we are talking about.

[G-Unit]

We haven't seen Carolyn Carter's interviews therefore we have no idea what she may have said in them.

We have her husband's statement about what she told him she heard. I would say we have a  more reliable basis for  judging what Mrs Carpenter heard than we have for suggesting that Martin Smith changed his mind.