Slarti's Simple Solution.

[Eleanor]

Only 180,000 posts to read, should do it in zip time hey? Before expressing opinions,asking questions!

Asking questions is fine.  I'm all for that.

[mercury]

Asking questions is fine.  I'm all for that.

Expressing opinions is also fine as long as they're within the rules of the forum controversial or not.

Btw welcome Vicky!

[Vicky]

Not quite understanding why thats classed as a controversial opinion tbh, nor why its fine to ask questions but not to post before reading over the entire forum. Some odd rules you have here..it would take me months to read through everything that has been posted so far. even if I did read everything, my opinion would be the same I assume, so the same post would be made, just at a later date.

And thanks Mercury for the welcome 

[Eleanor]

Not quite understanding why thats classed as a controversial opinion tbh, nor why its fine to ask questions but not to post before reading over the entire forum. Some odd rules you have here..it would take me months to read through everything that has been posted so far. even if I did read everything, my opinion would be the same I assume, so the same post would be made, just at a later date.

And thanks Mercury for the welcome 

That's fine also.  Express your opinions at a later date.  Yes, we do have some odd rules.  Best to learn those as well.

[slartibartfast]

Not quite understanding why thats classed as a controversial opinion tbh, nor why its fine to ask questions but not to post before reading over the entire forum. Some odd rules you have here..it would take me months to read through everything that has been posted so far. even if I did read everything, my opinion would be the same I assume, so the same post would be made, just at a later date.

And thanks Mercury for the welcome 

It's only controversial in the dictionary definition. We are all free to post according to the rules.

Welcome also.

[mercury]

Not quite understanding why thats classed as a controversial opinion tbh, nor why its fine to ask questions but not to post before reading over the entire forum. Some odd rules you have here..it would take me months to read through everything that has been posted so far. even if I did read everything, my opinion would be the same I assume, so the same post would be made, just at a later date.

And thanks Mercury for the welcome 

You're welcome. It is not a forum rule that you have to read back posts before posting btw

Enjoy

[Alfred R Jones]

Has it ever been confirmed that the window was actually open? From what I have read window/shutter has been broken, not broken, open, closed..and so on.

I just think woke and wandered, leading to kidnap/death in some way makes a lot of sense, especially given the lack of evidence of an intruder in the apartment.

The window thing has always confused me because if it was indeed open, why? The intruder would have came in via the patio doors so surekly out the same way (as it is expected they knew the McCanns left the kids and were watching, so would know the door was open...) and to get to the window would have been a struggle at night with the 2 cots in the room also.

either the window was opened by persons unknown or Kate lied.  If Madeleine woke and wandered either ShE opened the window or Kate lied.   So, which...?

[Alice Purjorick]

Only 180,000 posts to read, should do it in zip time hey? Before expressing opinions,asking questions!

Assuming always one does not die of kin boredom reading all the repetitious stuff before reaching the end.

[Angelo222]

Makes sense..occams razor and all that..

A further theory I believe should be considered, despite Kate's objections to this, is the woke and wandered one.

I don't see how it can be discounted, given that the doors were open, the child was nearly 4 and it was not unknown for her to wander around given Gerry said he thought she may have woke and gone through to the parents room. Why is it considered not possible for Maddie to wander out of the unlocked door searching for her parents?

Woke and wandered scenario, to me anyway, seems much more likely than an abductor breaking in. This could also include a abductor picking her up off the street or something, but I really think she might have been wandering around in the dark, been knocked over and the person who knocked her over hid the body for fear of prosecution.

That is my own belief but the problem with it is this.  If it is ever established that Maddie died because she was allowed to wander then her parents could well face renewed charges in the Portuguese equivalent of child neglect resulting in death.

[mercury]

Assuming always one does not die of kin boredom reading all the repetitious stuff before reaching the end.

Yes which makes it quite ironic attacking a newbie for repetitious stuff lol as if people who had already posted those 180k posts did much else than repetitious stuff

[Mr Gray]

Again sorry, but as I said a few posts back, I only started reading the forum again last night, and my first post was today. Are we not supposed to post anything until we have read every thread on the forum or something? As this is the second time on my first day of posting that something like this has been said :/

you are free to post anything you like within the forum rules but as this case is 9 years old you should understand posters may not want to post at length on things that have been discussed many times

[Vicky]

either the window was opened by persons unknown or Kate lied.  If Madeleine woke and wandered either ShE opened the window or Kate lied.   So, which...?

Kate lied, I suspect. I do not know why. Same as I don't know why the story of firstly using a key.. which transformed into no key but entering via unlocked door..came about. But thats a lie somewhere along the line, not just a mistake.

I see no reason why Madeleine would open the window. Don't even know if she could as some of those blind things are difficult even for an adult.

[slartibartfast]

you are free to post anything you like within the forum rules but as this case is 9 years old you should understand posters may not want to post at length on things that have been discussed many times

They can always move away from the keyboard.

[Mr Gray]

They can always move away from the keyboard.

you are making no sense as usual

[mercury]

you are making no sense as usual

Or else you have failed to understand the simplest of posts