Slarti's Simple Solution.

[Brietta]

Not necessarily if the original intention was a burglary.

Had they simply been 'casing the joint' for a burglary which was carried out, there would have been no witnesses for the simple reason a burglary would not have been reported in the media.

Perhaps having done the groundwork it was realised there was a very valuable commodity in the apartment.  If phone calls were made in the run up to the 3rd the significance would have been missed as the only phone traffic forensically examined (there's that word again) was the traffic between the prime suspects.

The initial intention of burglary (two adjacent apartments had been broken into) could easily have changed to targeted abduction.

[Carana]

Had they simply been 'casing the joint' for a burglary which was carried out, there would have been no witnesses for the simple reason a burglary would not have been reported in the media.

Perhaps having done the groundwork it was realised there was a very valuable commodity in the apartment.  If phone calls were made in the run up to the 3rd the significance would have been missed as the only phone traffic forensically examined (there's that word again) was the traffic between the prime suspects.

The initial intention of burglary (two adjacent apartments had been broken into) could easily have changed to targeted abduction.

I can't exclude a targeted abduction, either. So far, I haven't found anything to substantiate the "abducted-to-order" scenario involving several people.

Could an individual have seen M and "flashed" on her. Yes, why not?

Could a burglary have been an excuse to involve an accomplice? Possibly.

Could someone have decided that she resembled a descendant (or relative) of some historical figure and needed to be "rescued"? Possibly. Were all sects checked out?

ETA: Were any "communities" ever checked out?

[xtina]

Not necessarily if the original intention was a burglary.

don't forget ...according to gmcc ...no valuables were stolen

[Alice Purjorick]

Not necessarily if the original intention was a burglary.

Check the burglars "Manual of Tactics" to find out how a real burglar works not how an imaginary one on here is perceived to work.

[ferryman]

don't forget ...according to gmcc ...no valuables were stolen

To emphasise that the purpose of the intrusion was not burglary ....

[Eleanor]

Check the burglars "Manual of Tactics" to find out how a real burglar works not how an imaginary one on here is perceived to work.

You would know?  Good heavens.

[Carana]

Check the burglars "Manual of Tactics" to find out how a real burglar works not how an imaginary one on here is perceived to work.

Could you provide me with a link to it?

[Carana]

don't forget ...according to gmcc ...no valuables were stolen

Do explain your source and the context.

[Alice Purjorick]

You would know?  Good heavens.

In my line of business I meet all sorts. Particularly traveling by air and train it only takes a little bit of bad weather and delays or a close shave to have people making all sorts of indiscreet comments to total strangers. If one subscribes to the train of thought that God supplied us with one mouth, two ears and two eyes for a very good reason one can learn a lot.

[Alfred R Jones]

In my line of business I meet all sorts. Particularly traveling by air and train it only takes a little bit of bad weather and delays or a close shave to have people making all sorts of indiscreet comments to total strangers. If one subscribes to the train of thought that God supplied us with one mouth, two ears and two eyes for a very good reason one can learn a lot.

So, when your train or plane has been delayed you have made the acquaintance of master burglars who have let you in on their trade secrets, is that what you're saying?  How extremely fascinating.

[Carana]

In my line of business I meet all sorts. Particularly traveling by air and train it only takes a little bit of bad weather and delays or a close shave to have people making all sorts of indiscreet comments to total strangers. If one subscribes to the train of thought that God supplied us with one mouth, two ears and two eyes for a very good reason one can learn a lot.

LOL. I have encountered people telling me about all sorts of things over time, whether what they said was true or not. Much of which went in one ear and out the other in the absence of any particular reason to recall anythng in particular.

At the moment, the discussion is about Madeleiene McCann.

I presume that if you had heard anything potentially worthy of passing on that you would have done.

[Alice Purjorick]

Could you provide me with a link to it?

Obviously there is nothing entitled "The Burglary Manual of Tactics" but try looking in here to get a feel of what they do and don't do.

http://simplisafe.com/blog/burglar-reveals-15-trade-secrets-look-mind-burglar
http://www.rd.com/home/improvement/burglar-secrets/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/crimewatchroadshow/safety/burglars_favourites.shtml
http://www.ncssalarm.com/ten-things-clever-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know-they-do/
http://robertsiciliano.com/blog/2014/01/30/10-more-things-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know/

"A person casing your neighborhood for break-ins looks like the guy who would never do such a thing: clean-cut, maybe dressed in a workman’s uniform with a fake logo, carrying inspection equipment to make himself look legit".

There is plenty more where that came from.

[Alfred R Jones]

Obviously there is nothing entitled "The Burglary Manual of Tactics" but try looking in here to get a feel of what they do and don't do.

http://simplisafe.com/blog/burglar-reveals-15-trade-secrets-look-mind-burglar
http://www.rd.com/home/improvement/burglar-secrets/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/crimewatchroadshow/safety/burglars_favourites.shtml
http://www.ncssalarm.com/ten-things-clever-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know-they-do/
http://robertsiciliano.com/blog/2014/01/30/10-more-things-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know/

"A person casing your neighborhood for break-ins looks like the guy who would never do such a thing: clean-cut, maybe dressed in a workman’s uniform with a fake logo, carrying inspection equipment to make himself look legit".

There is plenty more where that came from.

Is that a fact?  So, never have there been incidents of shady looking types casing a neighbourhood intent on criminal activity?  Well I never!

[Alice Purjorick]

So, when your train or plane has been delayed you have made the acquaintance of master burglars who have let you in on their trade secrets, is that what you're saying?  How extremely fascinating.

Sure is.
I cannot find where I said master burglar though.

[Alfred R Jones]

Sure is.
I cannot find where I said master burglar though.

You mean you were conversing with common-or-garden burglars?  Surely that was beneath a man of your calibre!