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Offline G-Unit

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #150 on: February 25, 2016, 09:16:21 PM »
I'd put JT back to apartment in the 9.40-9.45 slot.  What does "said Matthew" mean?  Can we attempt to fill in the time line without any snarky insinuations please.

Matthew said he went at 9.25pm in his statements on 4th and the 10th. In his rog he said 9.20-25pm. Russell, who went with him, said 9.35-40pm on 4th, but agreed with Matthew's time of 9.25pm in his other two statements.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #151 on: February 25, 2016, 09:20:53 PM »
My additions in bold. Then we have the Moyes at some point. It would be interesting to set Jez Wilkins off at 8.30pm (without any way to tell the time) to follow the same route he followed on the night, including his stop off at the Tapas and his wanderings around various roads. Just to see what time he arrives back near the Tapas again.

Then there is this version
9.00-9.05 Gerry McCann in apartment
9.05-9.10 - Gerry McCann in apartment (?)
9.10-9.15 - Gerry & Jez Wilkins outside apartment
9.15-9.20 - JT walks past Apartment .
9.20-9.25-Gerry returns to table
9.25-9.30-Ditto depending on who you wish to believe. By inference from statements Jane returns.
9.30-9.35 MO enters apartment.  He walked up the road with Russell O’Brien.
9.35-9.40-MO returns to table.
9.40-9.45-Jane goes to her apartment to allow Russell to come back to eat.
9.45-9.50
9.50-9.55 -Russell O’Brien returns to table.
9.55-10.00 Kate Enters Apartment.

I am content there was the opportunity 21:20 to 21:30 and 21:45 to 21:50* (jeez but that's cool). Now how did he do it? Especially through which orifices did he enter and exit? and why?.From which direction did he enter and in which direction did he leg it?

* Dan Matthews call sign in Highway Patrol.

Sorry if this repeats your stuff but I have been dining!
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #152 on: February 25, 2016, 09:25:12 PM »
@ Alice

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7067.msg311073#msg311073

It seems a bit pointless a year later.

Only if you believe finding out what happened is a waste of time.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #153 on: February 25, 2016, 09:35:56 PM »
Only if you believe finding out what happened is a waste of time.


I don't think anyone on here is going to find out what hapenned

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #154 on: February 25, 2016, 09:40:17 PM »

I don't think anyone on here is going to find out what hapenned

Where did I say that someone on here would crack the case?
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Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #155 on: February 25, 2016, 09:42:11 PM »
Only if you believe finding out what happened is a waste of time.

Of course I don't believe that finding out what happened is a waste of time. However, I don't see how getting a limited number of people present that night to jog / amble / stroll around with a couple of PJ officers with a measuring tape and a stop watch (and the world's media)  is going to solve the mystery.

Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #156 on: February 25, 2016, 09:46:32 PM »
Jez said he saw a couple from Block 6 on their way down town, probably for dinner. so they may have passed Block 5 on their way out.
JW saw at least 6 people during this walk

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #157 on: February 25, 2016, 09:53:18 PM »
Of course I don't believe that finding out what happened is a waste of time. However, I don't see how getting a limited number of people present that night to jog / amble / stroll around with a couple of PJ officers with a measuring tape and a stop watch (and the world's media)  is going to solve the mystery.
Well putting it bluntly all the dicking about running up and down the road by T9 would be rather fundamental to establishing when there was an opportunity for an abductor to strike. As a minimum it should be put to a practical test.
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Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #158 on: February 25, 2016, 09:58:38 PM »
Well putting it bluntly all the dicking about running up and down the road by T9 would be rather fundamental to establishing when there was an opportunity for an abductor to strike. As a minimum it should be put to a practical test.

What can't be done via virtual reconstruction software with the variables entered in? Why just the T9?

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Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #159 on: February 25, 2016, 10:00:39 PM »
Then there is this version
9.00-9.05 Gerry McCann in apartment
9.05-9.10 - Gerry McCann in apartment (?)
9.10-9.15 - Gerry & Jez Wilkins outside apartment
9.15-9.20 - JT walks past Apartment .
9.20-9.25-Gerry returns to table
9.25-9.30-Ditto depending on who you wish to believe. By inference from statements Jane returns.
9.30-9.35 MO enters apartment.  He walked up the road with Russell O’Brien.
9.35-9.40-MO returns to table.
9.40-9.45-Jane goes to her apartment to allow Russell to come back to eat.
9.45-9.50
9.50-9.55 -Russell O’Brien returns to table.
9.55-10.00 Kate Enters Apartment.

I am content there was the opportunity 21:20 to 21:30 and 21:45 to 21:50* (jeez but that's cool). Now how did he do it? Especially through which orifices did he enter and exit? and why?.From which direction did he enter and in which direction did he leg it?

* Dan Matthews call sign in Highway Patrol.

Sorry if this repeats your stuff but I have been dining!
That's a total of 15 minutes - a HUGE window of opportunity!!

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #160 on: February 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM »
Well putting it bluntly all the dicking about running up and down the road by T9 would be rather fundamental to establishing when there was an opportunity for an abductor to strike. As a minimum it should be put to a practical test.

Indeed, however this is all based on T9 account of a night where no physical checking was done. Therefor, we cannot go just by what they said. There is a huge window of  opportunity since Maddie being seen alive by an independent witness until she is reported to have disappeared. HUGE WINDOW
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #161 on: February 25, 2016, 10:18:02 PM »
That's a total of 15 minutes - a HUGE window of opportunity!!

Errr yes and no. Total 15 minutes in two slots. Are you proposing that to use the HUGE slot of 15 minutes he abducts half the child in one slot and the other half in the second slot ? You seem to be avoiding my questions however.
I bet you believe if a job needs 1000 manhours a thousand blokes will do it in one  @)(++(*
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #162 on: February 25, 2016, 10:25:44 PM »
Errr yes and no. Total 15 minutes in two slots. Are you proposing that to use the HUGE slot of 15 minutes he abducts half the child in one slot and the other half in the second slot ? You seem to be avoiding my questions however.
I bet you believe if a job needs 1000 manhours a thousand blokes will do it in one  @)(++(*

...counting on fingers to add up that sum...

aha but he may have had a practice abduction, then put Maddie back in time for her father to check on her then abducted her a second time... you peepel do never to think inside a boxy thing.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #163 on: February 25, 2016, 10:33:11 PM »
Errr yes and no. Total 15 minutes in two slots. Are you proposing that to use the HUGE slot of 15 minutes he abducts half the child in one slot and the other half in the second slot ? You seem to be avoiding my questions however.
I bet you believe if a job needs 1000 manhours a thousand blokes will do it in one  @)(++(*
No I'm not proposing that Mr Facetious.  As for your questions I haven't got a clue, sorry.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #164 on: February 25, 2016, 10:38:19 PM »
What can't be done via virtual reconstruction software with the variables entered in? Why just the T9?

Because they were the main protagonists in the "train" ?

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because they are hiding but because we don’t bother to look for them".
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