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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #315 on: February 27, 2016, 01:51:44 PM »
There is no doubt in my mind either that if the abductor was seen ... he was the man seen by Jane Tanner.

He was seen at the relevant time in the relevant place from where a child was abducted. 

If a plasma screen had been stolen and a man had been seen carrying one just outside the place it had been stolen from ... what deduction would the police be expected to make if a witness told them about seeing him?
At the least he would have to be traced and interviewed to eliminate him as the thief.

Isn't it strange how McCann supporters agree with them about who took Madeleine. It's like you've all been programmed to agree with your masters.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #316 on: February 27, 2016, 01:53:09 PM »
Isn't it strange how McCann supporters agree with them about who took Madeleine. It's like you've all been programmed to agree with your masters.
How insulting.  What is it I'm supposed to be agreeing with?

Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #317 on: February 27, 2016, 02:04:08 PM »
On 4th May you can understand how GM statement was taken, by looking at how KM statement was taken:

Present in the room are KM, Joao Carlos of PJ, a young female interpreter, and GM.
The interview lasts 4 hours consisting of many exchanges like this-

JC asks question in portuguese
Interpreter repeats question in english
KM answers in english
Interpreter repeats answer in portuguese
JC types summary of answer on typewriter

No complete transcript, no audio recording.

Source: first hand account in book p91

Offline jassi

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #318 on: February 27, 2016, 02:06:29 PM »
On 4th May you can understand how GM statement was taken, by looking at how KM statement was taken:

Present in the room are KM, Joao Carlos of PJ, a young female interpreter, and GM.
The interview lasts 4 hours consisting of many exchanges like this-

JC asks question in portuguese
Interpreter repeats question in english
KM answers in english
Interpreter repeats answer in portuguese
JC types summary of answer on typewriter

No complete transcript, no audio recording.

Source: first hand account in book p91

Which book ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #319 on: February 27, 2016, 02:11:11 PM »
How insulting.  What is it I'm supposed to be agreeing with?

I don't know what you agree with but SY don't agree with Tannerman taking Madeleine. How LP missed his questionnaire when he revealed he carried his child passed there that night in 2007 is a serious question that needs addressing. SY on discovering it would have contacted him. And then we have posters asking, why did he only come forward 6 years later which doesn't make sense at all.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #320 on: February 27, 2016, 02:24:47 PM »
It is obvious that in the heavily summarised transcription of that 4th May interview, the translation and transcription processes have confused an earlier event, when he entered via the wooden door using a key, with the 21:05 check, when he entered via the balcony door.

I find that to be a possibility as well.


Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #321 on: February 27, 2016, 02:33:41 PM »
I find that to be a possibility as well.
Also IMO it is ridiculous to imagine that an intelligent person would make such a huge and pointless reversal of statement.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #322 on: February 27, 2016, 02:35:49 PM »
On 4th May you can understand how GM statement was taken, by looking at how KM statement was taken:

Present in the room are KM, Joao Carlos of PJ, a young female interpreter, and GM.
The interview lasts 4 hours consisting of many exchanges like this-

JC asks question in portuguese
Interpreter repeats question in english
KM answers in english
Interpreter repeats answer in portuguese
JC types summary of answer on typewriter

No complete transcript, no audio recording.

Source: first hand account in book p91
what a recipe for confusion

Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #323 on: February 27, 2016, 02:41:09 PM »
From book p91 you can see to get from each question to its answer are 4 possible errors.
1. Interpreter slightly misunderstands PJ officer.
2. GM slightly misunderstands interpreter.
3. Interpreter slightly misunderstands GM.
4. PJ officer slightly misunderstands interpreter.
What was native tongue of interpreter, GM 4 May?

Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #324 on: February 27, 2016, 02:50:36 PM »
what a recipe for confusion
As stated by KM (p91) no audio recordings made of the 4th May interviews

Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #325 on: February 27, 2016, 03:01:00 PM »
Who contributed to Hall's "research?

Perhaps Blonk could pop in to explain this further?


Offline G-Unit

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #326 on: February 27, 2016, 03:02:54 PM »
Why the fuss I wonder? Literal translation mentioning key. door and locked;

entered in the respective room key being the locked door
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Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #327 on: February 27, 2016, 03:16:03 PM »
Why the fuss I wonder? Literal translation mentioning key. door and locked;

entered in the respective room key being the locked door


Indeed. The original PT version states:


".... entrou no cuarto, munido da chave respectiva...."

Line 74
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_37.jpg


If that's an accurate statement, which "room" did he enter with a key?


ETA: Could the officer / interpreter in the morning of 4 May have assumed that they were living in a hotel room?

That might explain the confusion, if so.

« Last Edit: February 27, 2016, 03:37:39 PM by Carana »

Offline pegasus

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #328 on: February 27, 2016, 03:43:34 PM »
Saying his entry was by wooden door with a key would have been completely stupid, and pointless, because in same statement it says MO enters through unlocked balcony door.


Offline Carana

Re: Slarti's Simple Solution.
« Reply #329 on: February 27, 2016, 03:45:38 PM »
Saying his entry was by wooden door with a key would have been completely stupid, and pointless, because in same statement it says MO enters through unlocked balcony door.

It makes no sense to anyone beyond the cherry-pickers for reasons best known to themselves.