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Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #165 on: March 20, 2016, 02:02:34 PM »
Those links aren't working for me, so could you just tell me, please.

I could never fault your efforts on research, especially as I am not hot on that myself.
I added descriptions of the 2 small photos Eleanor - IMO that tshirt was laying in that pile

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #166 on: March 20, 2016, 02:10:17 PM »
In my opinion, they would be very strange Doctors if they didn't know about Cadaver Contamination.

Is it something doctors routinely learn about then?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #167 on: March 20, 2016, 02:13:09 PM »
I added descriptions of the 2 small photos Eleanor - IMO that tshirt was laying in that pile

Okay, T Shirt.  But what about the Check Trousers?  And what was Kate wearing that evening?

I am genuinely interested.

Sorry, I don't always pay as much attention as I should.  But you are never unpleasant.  Which is too often my main concern.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #168 on: March 20, 2016, 02:17:17 PM »
Is it something doctors routinely learn about then?

I would think so.  Isn't it basic, common sense.  They all have to deal with dead bodies, even if only in training, which is why Scrubs get dumped in a bin to be decontaminated.  I am pretty sure these scrubs aren't destroyed.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #169 on: March 20, 2016, 02:20:48 PM »
Okay, T Shirt.  But what about the Check Trousers?  And what was Kate wearing that evening?

I am genuinely interested.

Sorry, I don't always pay as much attention as I should.  But you are never unpleasant.  Which is too often my main concern.

According to her description a green T shirt and jeans, the same outfit she wore on 4th;

She was wearing a top, she doesn't remember what colour it was, a green long-sleeved t-shirt, blue denim pants. Trainers (tennis shoes) and white socks.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #170 on: March 20, 2016, 02:40:20 PM »
Okay, T Shirt.  But what about the Check Trousers?  ... (snip)
IMO just above the tshirt Eleanor and are here coloured solid grey as guide for when you look at original PJ photo.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #171 on: March 20, 2016, 02:52:24 PM »
IMO just above the tshirt Eleanor here coloured solid grey as guide for when you look at original PJ photo.

So these articles were contaminated.  But what about the rest of the stuff?

To me, it is all too possible that Cadaver Contamination can be washed out.  Surely some attention must have been paid to this.  Otherwise half of the population would be stinking, along with anyone who ever worked in a hospital.

Being able to wash it out doesn't mean that it didn't happen initially.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #172 on: March 20, 2016, 03:09:07 PM »
Okay, T Shirt.  But what about the Check Trousers?  And what was Kate wearing that evening?

I am genuinely interested.

Sorry, I don't always pay as much attention as I should.  But you are never unpleasant.  Which is too often my main concern.

She was wearing her running clothes when returning from the tapas. As Gerry was leaving at 6 to play tennis common sense would tell you that she had a shower and changed out of her sweaty gear. That is 45 minutes before she claims she took one just before DP paid a visit. He didn't see her wearing a towel so that is ruled out. Time to bring the three amigos in for questioning.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #173 on: March 20, 2016, 03:21:14 PM »
Any opinions on this item visible in two places, here with added outlining in green as a guide for looking at the original PJ photo
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #174 on: March 20, 2016, 03:30:16 PM »
She was wearing her running clothes when returning from the tapas. As Gerry was leaving at 6 to play tennis common sense would tell you that she had a shower and changed out of her sweaty gear. That is 45 minutes before she claims she took one just before .... ...... paid a visit. He didn't see her wearing a towel so that is ruled out. Time to bring the three amigos in for questioning.

I don't think you can rule out whatever either of them said what she was or wasn't wearing.  A gentleman wouldn't feel the need to say that she was only wearing a towel.
At least, no gentleman that I have ever met.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #175 on: March 20, 2016, 03:32:00 PM »
Any opinions on this item visible in two places, here with added outlining in green as a guide for looking at the original PJ photo

I am sure that you are right.  But it doesn't explain the lack of cross contamination to other things.

Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #176 on: March 20, 2016, 03:36:09 PM »
I am sure that you are right.  But it doesn't explain the lack of cross contamination to other things.
I may come to that question later Eleanor. Re item drawn round in green - can we observe anything about it? Is it plain or patterned material?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #177 on: March 20, 2016, 04:13:47 PM »
I would think so.  Isn't it basic, common sense.  They all have to deal with dead bodies, even if only in training, which is why Scrubs get dumped in a bin to be decontaminated.  I am pretty sure these scrubs aren't destroyed.

No, it's not basic common sense. I believe they use embalmed bodies for student dissection lessons. In which case decomposition will not be happening. Nowadays not all students do dissection either. If doctors deal with other dead bodies they will mostly be recently dead so no decomposition to speak of there either.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #178 on: March 20, 2016, 04:13:56 PM »
I may come to that question later Eleanor. Re item drawn round in green - can we observe anything about it? Is it plain or patterned material?

I don't know.  My eyesight isn't all that good these days.  But I am more than happy to listen.

Perchance your observations have been overlooked in the rough and tumble.  And I am sorry about that.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #179 on: March 20, 2016, 04:16:09 PM »
No, it's not basic common sense. I believe they use embalmed bodies for student dissection lessons. In which case decomposition will not be happening. Nowadays not all students do dissection either. If doctors deal with other dead bodies they will mostly be recently dead so no decomposition to speak of there either.

Gosh.  I thought it was only 90 minutes.  Doctors all rush to a dead body, do they?