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Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #195 on: March 20, 2016, 08:08:51 PM »
IMO not because this item in pile is manufactured from white or off-white fabric (not blue).
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7097.0;attach=6238;image
green outline has been added to show which item, so please see original PJ photo in files is better.
A start is to ask is the fabric plain, or does it have a design, and if so is it checks, or stripes, or ...?

OK. The item at 1.01.29 on the dogs video which Eddie is standing over but not alerting to? Possibly a pair of toddler pyjama bottoms.

ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #196 on: March 20, 2016, 08:25:01 PM »
So (in English law!) we've had an instance of where a child-minder (of all people) forgot about a child in her charge for several hours, but because there was no evidence of mens rai (guilty mind) neither was there an offence committed (no intent to cause harm).

In Portugal, the McCanns certainly never forgot about their children, checked them regularly (perhaps not as regularly as the Portuguese prosecutors would have liked, but certainly regularly enough to comply with the requirements of Portuguese (and seemingly, also, English) law. 

There is zero evidence that either McCann (or any of their friends) did anything, directly, to harm Madeleine.

So what excuses do McCann-detractors have left to denigrate the McCanns?

Offline jassi

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #197 on: March 20, 2016, 08:29:34 PM »
Who needs an excuse?
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ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #198 on: March 20, 2016, 08:30:40 PM »
Who needs an excuse?

In the absence of legitimate reason, excuse is all that's left.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #199 on: March 20, 2016, 10:52:22 PM »
So (in English law!) we've had an instance of where a child-minder (of all people) forgot about a child in her charge for several hours, but because there was no evidence of mens rai (guilty mind) neither was there an offence committed (no intent to cause harm).

In Portugal, the McCanns certainly never forgot about their children, checked them regularly (perhaps not as regularly as the Portuguese prosecutors would have liked, but certainly regularly enough to comply with the requirements of Portuguese (and seemingly, also, English) law. 

There is zero evidence that either McCann (or any of their friends) did anything, directly, to harm Madeleine.

So what excuses do McCann-detractors have left to denigrate the McCanns?

Do you mean mens rea ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #200 on: March 20, 2016, 11:04:12 PM »
Do you mean mens rea ?

I would think so.  Wouldn't you?

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing
« Reply #201 on: March 20, 2016, 11:26:16 PM »
I use one of those to get rid of the smell of dog pee on my mat.  But joking aside, permanent Cadaver Odour is a Myth.  Especially three months later.

Its been scenifically proven that it lasts not only at least three months (carpet squares study) and up to 14 months (residual scent in buildings study) both discussed ad infinitum on here for years eleanor...so u cleaning your pooches pee which is not cadaver scent btw is not a good example of "odourless"

Anyway hey? Just filling you in case youd frgotten those timngs, besides , police wouldnt waste their resources sending dogs in when they did imo

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothi
« Reply #202 on: March 20, 2016, 11:40:26 PM »


In Portugal, the McCanns certainly never forgot about their children, checked them regularly (perhaps not as regularly as the Portuguese prosecutors would have liked, but certainly regularly enough to comply with the requirements of Portuguese and seemingly, also, English) law. 

There is zero evidence that either McCann (or any of their friends) did anything, directly, to harm Madeleine.

So what excuses do McCann-detractors have left to denigrate the McCanns?
Seemingly being the operative word and you know for a fact these days police swoop on parents whose kids were left in a car for even two minutes .....to back up yur argument you would have to quote a case where the parents or carers left the kids ( toddlers) for half hour stretches, in unlocked flat,one went missing, and it would be considered by them "responsible care".



« Last Edit: March 20, 2016, 11:47:49 PM by Eleanor »

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #203 on: March 20, 2016, 11:46:59 PM »
IMO just above the tshirt Eleanor and are here coloured solid grey as guide for when you look at original PJ photo.

I dont think you are going to get anywhere much with these photos they are to fuzzy and colours and shapes compromised

Imo

But if you think the clothes were contamnated, what by?

Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #204 on: March 21, 2016, 12:27:32 AM »
It's a patterned fabric, not striped, not a regular check. I can't really  make out if the pattern is on a white background
or not- enhancing colour & enlarging doesn't really help and the article could be crumpled up.
It's easier to see on the original PJ image. IMO that item is off-white fabric on which is printed a design of small pastelly coloured dots Misty, a bit like ...
« Last Edit: March 21, 2016, 12:35:29 AM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #205 on: March 21, 2016, 12:54:11 AM »
I dont think you are going to get anywhere much with these photos they are to fuzzy and colours and shapes compromised

Imo

But if you think the clothes were contamnated, what by?
Possibly by being adjacent to something Merc?

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #206 on: March 21, 2016, 12:56:39 AM »
Possibly by being adjacent to something Merc?

Obviously lol but i was asking for the physical  primary source in other words the orignal from a body

Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #207 on: March 21, 2016, 01:18:01 AM »
It's easier to see on the original PJ image. IMO that item is off-white fabric on which is printed a design of small pastelly coloured dots Misty, a bit like ...

It's quite a large piece of clothing, Pegasus as it extends under the trousers - I'm looking at the blue above.....
not believing it is A's jacket....still scouring all the photos.

Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #208 on: March 21, 2016, 01:41:39 AM »
@Pegasus

I think the item is too large to be the pyjama bottoms.......and the markings wrong....so please continue..

Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #209 on: March 21, 2016, 01:56:48 AM »