Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?

[pegasus]

@Pegasus

Crimewatch Nov 2007 Filming in villa Aug,2007 red & green items in box

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY 3.38

Those items on white furniture in your daytime 2nd Aug footage by JC are still on white furniture in Eddie footage evening 2nd Aug Misty
http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=9m42s

[mercury]

But he is trained not to pick up anythings that he alerts to, I understand?

So it seems that the picking up does not indicate an alert.   What do you think mercury?

There is nothng in any of the police files which suggests Eddie was trained "not" to pick up items.
The only thing I can think of is reference to a STU machine, iirc this has to do with not contamnating a crime scene , whereby pads are inserted nto the area of interest and given to the dog to test. Dont quote me though. The gym where the clothes were laid out was not a crime scene. What do I think? I think none of us are experienced dog handlers/trainers so do not have the right / knowledge to assert a single thing over the professionals.

[mercury]

Here Merc

Talk about the proverbial needle in a haystack hunted via blurry pictures Pegasus.

Re the tshirt Eddie picked up, youre rght, I checked, it was described as light blue in the police files, that doesnt make a difference though....the reported clothes Eddie alerted to were the red to grey slacks and a white blouse belongng to KM, I never saw Eddie pick up the white blouse that was focussed on...perhaps if we had the wholeunedited video...as I cant see police writing down items that Eddie didnt either pick up or bark around specifically...

[pegasus]

It's clearly a pile of clothes apart from a couple of typed A4 sheets on top Merc.
One alert is to that pile of clothes.
Other alert is to seat of dining chair, or something on it.
BTW in that part of the villa there were two tshirts with design including "ON" letters, one grey, one blue.

[mercury]

It's clearly a pile of clothes apart from a couple of typed A4 sheets on top Merc.
One alert is to that pile of clothes.
Other alert is to seat of dining chair, or something on it.
BTW in that part of the villa there were two tshirts with design including "ON" letters, one grey, one blue.

Ok, you can see things I cant, so will leave it there, apart from to say I didnt realise eddie made two alerts in that room....why is that not in the dog reports then

[pegasus]

Ok, you can see things I cant, so will leave it there, apart from to say I didnt realise eddie made two alerts in that room....why is that not in the dog reports then

Here is the second alert Merc - it is an alert to the seat of the dining chair, or to something on the seat of the dining chair.
http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=4m13s

[mercury]

Here is the second alert Merc - it is an alert to the seat of the dining chair, or to something on the seat of the dining chair.
http://youtu.be/c4NMYPsFKb8?t=4m13s

Thats the gym link but I watched it again and saw eddie picking up a pair of blue shorts too before concentrating in the red t shirt, and possibly later  touching on the white ladies blouse next to the grey trousers.In our haste we dont see everythng

[pegasus]

@Merc watch the second villa alert is at 4 Mins 13 Secs dining chair

[mercury]

@Merc watch the second villa alert is at 4 Mins 13 Secs dining chair

Sorry, just watched the video link where it started
ok
He first alerts to the sideboard at 4.07 then does a round of the dining table and barks again...

In the files it is all recorded as alert to Cuddlecat toy and not different areas of dining room

This is getting too complicated for me.

[misty]

Sorry, just watched the video link where it started
ok
He first alerts to the sideboard at 4.07 then does a round of the dining table and barks again...

In the files it is all recorded as alert to Cuddlecat toy and not different areas of dining room

This is getting too complicated for me.

I think it adequately demonstrates the handler's misinterpretation of his dog's alerts. Whether or not that was intentional we don't know.

[pegasus]

(snip) He first alerts to the sideboard at 4.07 then does a round of the dining table and barks again...(snip)

... alerting to the seat of the dining chair or to something on the seat of the dining chair

[misty]

... alerting to the seat of the dining chair or to something on the seat of the dining chair

Any particular reason you think he didn't alert to the chair first, ie, before the handler walked him around?

[pegasus]

Any particular reason you think he didn't alert to the chair first, ie, before the handler walked him around?

I don't know Misty. Is it possible there is something on the dining chair? Maybe a pile of clothes?

[Brietta]

I don't know Misty. Is it possible there is something on the dining chair? Maybe a pile of clothes?

I think the problem with the sequence of events portrayed in the video is that the cupboard was not immediately opened to reveal at what Eddie might have been barking.

[misty]

I don't know Misty. Is it possible there is something on the dining chair? Maybe a pile of clothes?

Must have been a very small pile of clothes as you can see the gap between the chair back & the seating pad.