Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?

[pegasus]

Thank you pegasus.

Source for reward object: http://youtu.be/ijFQ_G9QNYo 03:03

[mercury]

In this instance, yes (unless there is something not shown in the villa video).
First it's important to remember that Eddie did not alert in the north bedroom. So if you believe Eddie alerted to the toy, that would automatically be intelligence that KM misrepresented the scene at 10pm wouldn't it? And I am convinced she didn't. In the villa video it's obvious IMO that Eddie does not alert to the toy (unless the toy is on that dining chair). This is welcome confirmation of what I already worked out - the scene in the north bedroom at 10pm was truthfully described IMO Merc.

Quite amazing admission I must say!

You must know that the whole dog video is about a third of the full length one. You must also know that there can be many reasons why Madeleines bedroom (or north as you call it) was not alerted to but her toy was. There are also many permutations possible surrounding the "facts" given by witness statements

[pegasus]

Shrewd post.

And as for the other other bit of EVRD intelligence which was wrongly interpreted by illogical detectives to implicate this witness, I'll state again the obvious:
If one of my clothing items is at location A and I am at location B then I cannot possibly be involved in anything related to that clothing item at that time.

[pegasus]

Quite amazing admission I must say!

You must know that the whole dog video is about a third of the full length one. You must also know that there can be many reasons why Madeleines bedroom (or north as you call it) was not alerted to but her toy was. There are also many permutations possible surrounding the "facts" given by witness statements

IMO the second villa alert is when Eddie appears to alert to a dining chair. But we can't see what if anything is on the dining chair. Is it possible that the toy was on that dining chair at that point in the video? Reason I ask is some text in Mr Amaral's book.

[misty]

IMO the second villa alert is when Eddie appears to alert to a dining chair. But we can't see what if anything is on the dining chair. Is it possible that the toy was on that dining chair at that point in the video? Reason I ask is some text in Mr Amaral's book.

Chapter 16 TTotL
"Eddie goes immediately to the lounge. He comes to a stop in front of a wicker armchair on which is lying Madeleine's small pink soft toy, which Kate was never without in the early days of the investigation. Nowadays, she wears a rosary and a green ribbon around her neck. Eddie barks to let us know that he has detected an odour: the soft toy has been in contact with a body."

Do you think Amaral ever watched the DVD?

[mercury]

IMO the second villa alert is when Eddie appears to alert to a dining chair. But we can't see what if anything is on the dining chair. Is it possible that the toy was on that dining chair at that point in the video? Reason I ask is some text in Mr Amaral's book.

All I am saying is that I believe Grime is the expert here, and if he says  the dog alerted to the toy, then it did

[pathfinder73]

1. You take a dog in to that area and there's no alert.

2. You put a new object in that area and the dog now alerts.

What's your conclusion?

[ferryman]

1. You take a dog in to that area and there's no alert.

2. You put a new object in that area and the dog now alerts.

What's your conclusion?

We know (from the corrupted record of the inspection in the gym) that that is how dog-inspections are supposed to be conducted.

You take specific items (such as clothes) and inspect them in one place without reaction.

You take exactly the same items to another place and inspect them a second time (apparently) with results.

What's your conclusion?

[pathfinder73]

We know (from the corrupted record of the inspection in the gym) that that is how dog-inspections are supposed to be conducted.

You take specific items (such as clothes) and inspect them in one place without reaction.

You take exactly the same items to another place and inspect them a second time (apparently) with results.

What's your conclusion?

Eddie picked the toy out of a bin (the precious CC thrown in a bin!) and marked it so that's why a second test was done.

[Brietta]

Eddie picked the toy out of a bin (the precious CC thrown in a bin!) and marked it so that's why a second test was done.

In the video I saw ...

• The dog tipped the soft toy out of a container and tossed it aside.
• It landed on the floor and the dog ignored it.
• Dog and handler walked past it and again the dog ignored it completely.

Can you give a reason why the cupboard door was not opened immediately Eddie barked in its vicinity?

[faithlilly]

There was no cadaver contamination on CC or Eddie would have immediately alerted to the toy at the rented villa  & also later at the gymnasium.

But Eddie did alert. Was it to the cupboard ?

[misty]

But Eddie did alert. Was it to the cupboard ?

Was CC the only item in the vicinity?

[pathfinder73]

Was CC the only item in the vicinity?

A second test was done and CC was the only new item added to the area and Eddie alerted.  Conclusion is that Eddie alerted to a cadaver scent contaminated CC. MG did the second test to confirm the marking of the toy by Eddie when he picked it up - reverting to puppy toy play mode. MG knows the behaviour of his dog much better than us.

[misty]

A second test was done and CC was the only new item added to the area and Eddie alerted.  Conclusion is that Eddie alerted to a cadaver scent contaminated CC. MG did the second test to confirm the marking of the toy by Eddie when he picked it up - reverting to puppy toy play mode. MG knows the behaviour of his dog much better than us.

So why didn't Eddie alert to CC at a separate screening in the gymnasium?

[pathfinder73]

So why didn't Eddie alert to CC at a separate screening in the gymnasium?

That would have been for Keela to check for blood.