Author Topic: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?  (Read 8698 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2016, 02:56:31 PM »
Well said Stephen. a lot of threads do not have 'mandatory opinions' just sayin..

Anyone starting a Thread should give an Opinion.

ferryman

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Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2016, 03:08:04 PM »
There is little or nothing in the public domain about the second joint enquiry; plenty about the shelved enquiry we (at least on this board) are simply not allowed to discuss.

I find that inequality puzzling (to say the least) ...

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2016, 03:10:29 PM »
There is little or nothing in the public domain about the second joint enquiry; plenty about the shelved enquiry we (at least on this board) are simply not allowed to discuss.

I find that inequality puzzling (to say the least) ...

Has there ever been a "joint inquiry" ?
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ferryman

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Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 03:12:41 PM »
Has there ever been a "joint inquiry" ?

Scotland Yard are assisting the PJ (in a joint enquiry).

Offline jassi

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2016, 03:25:30 PM »
Scotland Yard are assisting the PJ (in a joint enquiry).

Are they? I thought they were separate investigation running in parallel.  Different elements of the PJ were assisting OG's  inquiries in Portugal, when required.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2016, 03:29:36 PM »

Portugal is the only country that can currently prosecute anyone.  But any thought that Scotland Yard are not involved in a Joint Enquiry is obviously very silly.

ferryman

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Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2016, 03:34:42 PM »
From The Daily Telegraph

During Operation Grange detectives from the Met regularly travelled to the Algarve to liaise with their Portuguese counterparts and undertook a number of exploratory digs in the Praia da Luz area.

Offline John

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2016, 03:40:50 PM »
I think you might get a better quality of debate if you establish your starting position first.

Yes, it is convention to start a topic with a proper introduction regardless of past comment.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2016, 03:57:58 PM »
Portugal is the only country that can currently prosecute anyone.  But any thought that Scotland Yard are not involved in a Joint Enquiry is obviously very silly.

Show us where it is listed as a proper joint investigation team under the aegis of Europol then.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2016, 04:05:07 PM »
Show us where it is listed as a proper joint investigation team under the aegis of Europol then.

I don't think Europol has much to do with this.  Unless you can prove otherwise.

But then why should it matter.  It's a search for a missing child.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2016, 04:11:26 PM »
Well said Stephen. a lot of threads do not have 'mandatory opinions' just sayin..
I did not think any forum rules were actually breached, so I posted as a commentator, not a mod.

I happen to think it makes it easier if the topic is self-complete.

Just as an example, Mr Richard Hall refers in his latest video to a section in a previous video where he ... 

Now, I sat through all 4 hours of his latest opus.  But I refuse to go back to a previous video, that may well daisy-chained to an earlier one.

It was suggested to Stephen that the thread would be enhanced by his opinion.  He has chosen to do so.  My thanks to Stephen for making this choice.
What's up, old man?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 05:41:44 PM »
I don't think Europol has much to do with this.  Unless you can prove otherwise.

But then why should it matter.  It's a search for a missing child.

Nice swerve Ellie
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

ferryman

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Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 05:45:24 PM »
Let the debate begin.

There is very little in the public domain about the second (joint) enquiry ....

Offline Eleanor

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 05:54:49 PM »
Nice swerve Ellie

I've picked up a few tips from you along the way.

Offline mercury

Re: What has Operation Grange actually achieved ?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2016, 08:02:32 PM »
I've picked up a few tips from you along the way.

I thnk you might be mixing AP up wth someone else...they are normally the recipient of responses with changed goalposts, such an annoying (non) debating habit