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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2016, 09:11:05 PM »
You found the case Pathfinder well done. Who would certainly have read the details of that case?

Thanks Pegasus. "one of the biggest body hunts Durham Police has ever been involved with."

"We were very grateful to South Yorkshire," said Det Insp Sampson. "With their dogs, which can detect the gases given off from graves, we quickly located the grave."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24206111

Adrian Muir, 51, from Halifax, denies murder at Newcastle Crown Court.
He said that the killer must have seen TV footage of a search of the area, which followed his arrest, then buried her there to implicate him.

When asked why one of his fingerprints was on a plastic bag containing flowers which was found with the body, he said the killer must have taken it from her home.

Mr Robertson added: "It's another unfortunate coincidence that this other person, whoever they may be, has not left any of their prints on either of the bags, the only discernible print is yours. That's very bad luck."

Mr Muir said: "It's one big bad luck. It's terrible."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24131262

That old chestnut  %56&

'Nine years for a man that's capable of killing someone': Anger of son whose mother was killed and buried on moor by lover she met on dating website

'He continued to lie in the face of the huge volume of forensics and telecommunications evidence linking him to Soyland Moor where Pamela was found and, at trial, even made wild accusations of a conspiracy against him in his efforts to evade justice.
'Each and every one of his actions has been motivated by a cowardly sense of self-preservation."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2439304/Adrian-Muir-Pamela-Jacksons-sons-anger-unjust-sentence-given-manslaughter.html

got pdf report
« Last Edit: April 18, 2016, 09:34:19 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #76 on: April 18, 2016, 09:13:26 PM »
So, how many people on here seriously believe SY have made any progress with this case at all ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #77 on: April 18, 2016, 09:33:27 PM »
So, how many people on here seriously believe SY have made any progress with this case at all ?

they have ruled out the parents

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2016, 09:35:56 PM »
then you need to read it again

So you think "refused to give further details about the inquiry" and  "confirmed that detectives were still examining possible links to a series of burglaries in the Algrarve area at the time Madeleine ..." Are compatible?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2016, 09:36:47 PM »
they have ruled out the parents


Yet how and when Madeleine disappeared is unknown.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #80 on: April 18, 2016, 09:38:38 PM »
So you think "refused to give further details about the inquiry" and  "confirmed that detectives were still examining possible links to a series of burglaries in the Algrarve area at the time Madeleine ..." Are compatible?

absolutely

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #81 on: April 18, 2016, 09:39:12 PM »
Some new pics ...

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2016/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-more-on.html

But for the steps at the side of the apartment, Casa Maria reminds me very much of the outside of 5A.

End apartment, recessed front door and car park wall immediately outside.  Must be quite a few similar apartments in Luz in the same phase of building.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #82 on: April 18, 2016, 09:39:24 PM »

Yet how and when Madeleine disappeared is unknown.

that's right but the parents are not suspects

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #83 on: April 18, 2016, 09:47:48 PM »
"The British officers questioned them on suspicion of being part of a burglary gang that panicked after killing Madeleine during a bungled break-in. They all protested their innocence and were released without charge."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/16/madeleine-mccann-latest-are-police-any-closer-to-knowing-the-tru/

GA: "What is very serious, alarming even, is their attempt to stage a new thesis – a theory if you prefer – that involves someone, a burglar (who breaks into the apartment) intent on stealing, is frightened by a three-year old child, kills her and then takes the body with him –  a rather far-fetching scenario (to say the least).

I remember a colleague, a British colleague who also happened to be from Scotland Yard, proposing exactly the same thesis (by the way, he was the only one from Scotland Yard  around at the time).

We analysed this hypothesis at the time; discussed it and eventually dismissed it as implausible.

They talk about drug traffickers, dealers who suddenly (presumably), had the imaginative idea  to burglar a house for keeps. The fallacy is, there is no way to prove that apartment was burgled; there are no signs of a forced entry. Nothing was stolen from there."

(MP): There are those bank statements…

(GA): Which bank statements? The ones they found on that path? Rubbish? We are talking here of garbage they have been collecting, none of which is associated with…

The bank statements are not from the McCanns’; they were not removed from their apartment. Nothing was removed from that apartment. Nothing was stolen. The only “thing” that was removed from there – and I say “thing” in brackets for it was not a “thing”, it was a person – the only “thing” missing from there, was Madeleine McCann!

Not a television set, not a camera, not a thing!  There were no traces of a break-in either!  Therefore there was no burglary. Not theft took place in there.

Now we are asked to assume that these burglars were extremely intelligent and  decided to take a dead child with them (dead because they killed her or because she died of fright). That they might have thought: “Let’s take the child away with us, because the consequences of an homicide are much worst than those a theft”.

And to make it all more plausible, they are supposed to have simulated a kidnapping – which is where that story of the window found open with the slats of the blind jimmied and the curtains blown by a draft, comes in as if to suggest the child was taken through it, and so on.

Fine thinking!  The problem is, there are no signs of a theft (or a break-into the apartment for that matter)…

It seems these burglars must have been very intelligent indeed! Unfortunately, soon afterwards, they run out of common sense and leave the body not far from the crime scene. That was not so clever, was it? It was as if, suddenly, their intelligence had gone.

Another thing that does not seem to match reality is this – they were supposed to be three of them and have arrived at the apartment by feet and yet, if you recall, only one of them was seen carrying the child towards those fields (the British police are searching).

But fair enough! It could have happened as they imagine it did. There were several mobile phone pings in that area (whatever that means)  the problem is, I don’t see anything, garbage or otherwise, capable of giving any substance to Scotland Yard’s new thesis.

https://zizipresscuts.wordpress.com/2014/06/08/dr-goncalo-amaral-on-scotland-yards-staging-in-praia-da-luz/
« Last Edit: April 18, 2016, 10:02:46 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #84 on: April 18, 2016, 09:54:36 PM »
that's right but the parents are not suspects

Yet pursuing abduction SY have found nothing.


...and without an 'abduction'  what is left ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #85 on: April 18, 2016, 09:56:05 PM »
Yet pursuing abduction SY have found nothing.


...and without an 'abduction'  what is left ?
just because they have not found the abductor doesnt mean there wasn't one

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #86 on: April 18, 2016, 09:59:22 PM »
and that applies to the accidental death scenario Dave.

no it doesn't...accidental death has been ruled out for very obvious reasons

stephen25000

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Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #87 on: April 18, 2016, 10:01:59 PM »
no it doesn't...accidental death has been ruled out for very obvious reasons

What obvious reasons ?



Offline pegasus

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #88 on: April 18, 2016, 10:11:30 PM »
So, how many people on here seriously believe SY have made any progress with this case at all ?
Me.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive
« Reply #89 on: April 18, 2016, 10:14:28 PM »
I will leave you and your fellows to your fantasy of abduction.

and SY of course