Madeleine McCann detective: we still hope to find her alive

[Lace]

I'm not frustrated in the slightest.


However, those who perpetuate the abduction story are going to remain VERY DISAPPOINTED.

Why all the negativity from you Stephen,  you have heard it from a top detective,  Madeleine could be found alive,  so if that doesn't say 'abduction' I don't know what would.

Aren't you happy that Madeleine could be found alive?

[Alice Purjorick]

I couldn't know that, just observing that they have now put a very senior investigator onto the case.

Looking at The Met command structures he was always there.
4 murder teams of up to 50 lead by a DCI each report into a DCS or a DS in each of 6 geographical areas.
If it's good enough for a murder investigation why would they alter it for a missing person?

[slartibartfast]

Why all the negativity from you Stephen,  you have heard it from a top detective,  Madeleine could be found alive,  so if that doesn't say 'abduction' I don't know what would.

Aren't you happy that Madeleine could be found alive?

I am sure everyone accepts that there is a very slim possibility of Madeleine being found alive and as an outcome would almost certainly be the best possible outcome. However to use that slim probability as proof that police have discounted pointers to her death is disingenuous at best.

[stephen25000]

Why all the negativity from you Stephen,  you have heard it from a top detective,  Madeleine could be found alive,  so if that doesn't say 'abduction' I don't know what would.

Aren't you happy that Madeleine could be found alive?

The same detective, a specialist in murder investigations by the way, is hedging his bets, just like Redwood.

Like Redwood, he comes out with cliches.

If you hadn't got the message by now, I don't think Madeleine is alive for  a variety of reasons. It doesn't mean I want her dead.

[pegasus]

@Davel the first paragraph on page 57 explains the two reasons why every homicide investigation in which there is no body must concurrently run a missing person investigation.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/J_Homicide_MII/J_Homicide_10.1.pdf

[Lace]

I am sure everyone accepts that there is a very slim possibility of Madeleine being found alive and is an outcome would almost certainly be the best possible outcome. However to use that slim probability as proof that police have discounted pointers to her death is disingenuous at best.

Where have I used the probability as proof that police have discounted pointers to her death?

They say COULD be found alive.

I just find all the negativity such as 'they won't find anything,   that doesn't mean she was abducted' etc. etc.

Of course SY think she was abducted they wouldn't say that Madeleine COULD be found alive if they didn't.

That doesn't mean that who over abducted her,  didn't kill her.

[stephen25000]

Where have I used the probability as proof that police have discounted pointers to her death?

They say COULD be found alive.

I just find all the negativity such as 'they won't find anything,   that doesn't mean she was abducted' etc. etc.

Of course SY think she was abducted they wouldn't say that Madeleine COULD be found alive if they didn't.

That doesn't mean that who over abducted her,  didn't kill her.

In case you need reminding, there is no evidence to charge anyone with anything.

Carry on believing she may be alive.

That is your prerogative.

[Lace]

In case you need reminding, there is no evidence to charge anyone with anything.

Carry on believing she may be alive.

That is your prerogative.

You know this how?   SY are following up leads,  who is to say they don't have evidence?

I will carry on HOPING she may still be alive Stephen as will most of the public.

[pathfinder73]

From the Journal of Homicide and Major Crime Investigation produced by the National Policing Homicide Working group which has Mick Duthie as a member.

"South Yorkshire Police supplied support in the form of Victim Recovery Dogs (VRD). Ultimately the VRDs and their handlers discovered Pamela’s ‘deposition grave site’, following a combination of further search and investigation which narrowed down a specific area of interest."

Very interesting piece on the search for Pamela Jackson and recovery of her body by the cadaver dogs from page 57.

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/J_Homicide_MII/J_Homicide_10.1.pdf

I think everyone should read that from page 50. All the deletions discovered on his phone and his cover stories for blood etc. Many believe they can outsmart the police.

"I consider detective's instinct or 'gut-feeling', to be an underplayed attribute in an era of risk aversion and performance management; it should be encouraged in detectives as part of their skllls base."

[Eleanor]

Hope all you will.

As to what the police say in statements, they do follow a certain 'protocol', and I thought you would have sufficient awareness to realize that.

I think you will find though that most people believe Madeleine died some time ago.

No.  Most people don't believe that Madeleine died some time ago.

[stephen25000]

No.  Most people don't believe that Madeleine died some time ago.

You say NO, I say YES.

Perhaps you should ask around.

[jassi]

No.  Most people don't believe that Madeleine died some time ago.

You sound very sure. Have you done a poll on this recently ?

[Lace]

You sound very sure. Have you done a poll on this recently ?

I would think that most would HOPE she is still alive.

[Eleanor]

You sound very sure. Have you done a poll on this recently ?

Perhaps Stephen would like to prove his original statement.  And perhaps you can help him.

[jassi]

Perhaps Stephen would like to prove his original statement.  And perhaps you can help him.

Perhaps he will. I have no interest in trying to prove it either way.