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stephen25000

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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #375 on: May 15, 2016, 08:58:11 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 15, 2016, 08:55:16 PM
I'm absolutely sure they will do the right thing  ?{)(**

I am sure they will.

Send the mccanns packing, once and for all.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #376 on: May 15, 2016, 09:14:24 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on May 15, 2016, 05:01:24 PM
At the moment we do not know exactly where Scotland Yard are in working Madeleine's case.  They do ... and Madeleine's parents do because we have been told they will be kept informed of what is happening.
So perhaps at the moment appealing against Mr Amaral's victory might be low on their list of priorities.

If they do consider it appropriate to lodge an appeal with the supreme court it will be interesting to see how that will be handled.  Will it be allowed?  Therein lies the question ... there is also the question of how much confidence can be placed in the Portuguese justice system  ...  at risk of being called xenophobic yet again, my own confidence level is somewhere in the very low minus zeros.

It might indeed be low on their list of priorities. Twice now they've lost at Appeal Court level and once at Supreme Court level [they weren't interested in the injunction appeal] The pattern seems to be that the lower courts go along with them but not the higher courts.
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #377 on: May 17, 2016, 09:03:29 AM »
Amaral quit the PJ so that he could have the freedom    [ removed speculation ]

Perhaps that's what quitting the PJ actually gave him?

In which case, according to perverse Portuguese law, the Supreme Court will uphold the Appeal Court ruling.

If that reading of the position is, indeed, accurate then Portuguese law is (in this respect) perverse.
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #378 on: May 17, 2016, 10:30:40 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on May 17, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Amaral quit the PJ so that he could have the freedom    [ removed speculation ]

Perhaps that's what quitting the PJ actually gave him?

In which case, according to perverse Portuguese law, the Supreme Court will uphold the Appeal Court ruling.

If that reading of the position is, indeed, accurate then Portuguese law is (in this respect) perverse.

That is their prerogative.
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #379 on: May 17, 2016, 10:40:27 AM »
Quote from: John on May 17, 2016, 10:30:40 AM
That is their prerogative.

To allow people to traduce and malign without fear of legal comeback? ...

Why is that something to be proud of?
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #380 on: May 17, 2016, 10:47:49 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on May 17, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
To allow people to traduce and malign without fear of legal comeback? ...

Why is that something to be proud of?

The Portuguese Law was abided by.

You surely must believe that law is upheld ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #381 on: May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM »
this is why I think the Mccanns will go to the ECHR....a victory there would be very embarrassing for portugal
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #382 on: May 17, 2016, 10:56:20 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on May 17, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
To allow people to traduce and malign without fear of legal comeback? ...

Why is that something to be proud of?

Again I must point out that traducement has not been established ferryman so please, for the last time, stop claiming it has.

traducement - a false accusation of an offense or a malicious misrepresentation of someone's words or actions.
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stephen25000

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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #383 on: May 17, 2016, 10:57:01 AM »
The mccanns will have absolutely no chance of a victory in the ECHR.

Let alone be accepted for a hearing.

Mind you their legal costs will escalate, but then what of the money to 'search' for Madeleine ?
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #384 on: May 17, 2016, 10:59:01 AM »
Quote from: davel on May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
this is why I think the Mccanns will go to the ECHR....a victory there would be very embarrassing for portugal

It would but I cannot see it happening.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #385 on: May 17, 2016, 10:59:38 AM »
Quote from: John on May 17, 2016, 10:59:01 AM
It would but I cannot see it happening.

I can
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #386 on: May 17, 2016, 11:04:39 AM »
Quote from: davel on May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
this is why I think the Mccanns will go to the ECHR....a victory there would be very embarrassing for portugal

Why?
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Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #387 on: May 17, 2016, 11:08:55 AM »
Quote from: davel on May 17, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
I can

You have to remember that Portuguese Law is enshrined within the Constitution.  The ECHR therefore would find itself in great difficulty if it attempted to transcend that Law.
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Offline jassi

Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #388 on: May 17, 2016, 11:10:18 AM »
Quote from: davel on May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
this is why I think the Mccanns will go to the ECHR....a victory there would be very embarrassing for portugal

Britain has lost a number of cases at the ECHR and doesn't seem to be in the least embarrassed  , so why should Portugal ?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?
« Reply #389 on: May 17, 2016, 11:23:43 AM »
Quote from: davel on May 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
this is why I think the Mccanns will go to the ECHR....a victory there would be very embarrassing for portugal

A defeat would be very embarrassing for the McCanns. It's embarrassing to lose two appeals and two Supreme Court Appeals [second one not yet decided, but they won't go to ECHR if they win].

To then challenge the laws on which the judgements were based and lose would suggest a pathological desire to be proved right. 
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