The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.

[faithlilly]

If the big curtains were wide open then they would not have "whooshed" as the air would not have been trapped.
Here is a picture of the low level table lamp at the far end of the living area. There is no other table lamp in that room.

Not indeed the curtains wouldn't have whooshed misty.

From her 4th May statement.

"She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did. "

[mercury]

And what happened to "she ran over and opened the curtains"?

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[carlymichelle]

i like this new like button

[pathfinder73]

Only two of the group said they went into the 5A before Madeleine disappeared - ROB on a check and DP on that visit when he saw Kate in her invisible towel. All the others claim they first went inside their apartment after Madeleine disappeared. ROB claimed he could see inside the kids bedroom on his check and didn't mention opening the door. Most enlightening if true as It blows the ajar story to pieces! The door moves are key to this case.

[misty]

Back on topic.....SY must believe the window/shutters were open to even be considering the botched burglary scenario.
MO saw the curtains as having a green tinge therefore the shutters were up by 9.35pm.

[faithlilly]

Back on topic.....SY must believe the window/shutters were open to even be considering the botched burglary scenario.
MO saw the curtains as having a green tinge therefore the shutters were up by 9.35pm.

Are they considering the botched burglary scenario or is it just another fable fed to a willing journalist by interested parties ?

[misty]

Are they considering the botched burglary scenario or is it just another fable fed to a willing journalist by interested parties ?

I think we both know the answer to that :)

[pegasus]

Doesn't the fact that :
A. Kate changed her statement in almost every particular from her May 4th statement to the 10th of May timeline,
B. Gerry also changed his statement to avoid having to go past an open window,
C. Not one of their friends, 3 in total, saw the open window which would have been lit, through the open bedroom door,  by a small lamp in the living room,
Give you any cause for doubt ?

KM stated that she discovered the shutter and window open at 10pm.
She did not state what time they had been opened.
They could have been opened just 2 minutes before she arrived at the apartment.
In that case they would have been shut during all the previous checks.

[mercury]

KM stated that she discovered the shutter and window open at 10pm.
She did not state what time they had been opened.
They could have been opened just 2 minutes before she arrived at the apartment.
In that case they would have been shut during all the previous checks.

Misty argues they were open when Mo did his check

Misty though forgets that matthew said no curtains were moving, he didnt feel the window was open etc

[sadie]

Only two of the group said they went into the 5A before Madeleine disappeared - ROB on a check and .... ...... on that visit when he saw Kate in her invisible towel. All the others claim they first went inside their apartment after Madeleine disappeared. ROB claimed he could see inside the kids bedroom on his check and didn't mention opening the door. Most enlightening if true as It blows the ajar story to pieces! The door moves are key to this case.

Well, three people have said that they like this.


They cant have read it tho' because it says that ROB did the check before Madeleine disappeared. 
further it says that ROB claimed he could see inside the kids bedroom on his check

ROB never checked the McCann children; it was Matt that did that

Partisan voting, the post wasn't even read by the voters !    What a nonsense !

[sadie]

Misty argues they were open when Mo did his check

Misty though forgets that matthew said no curtains were moving, he didnt feel the window was open etc

Misty is right.  Matt did think that the light in there was greater than it should have been and that it came in from outside.

OK, no curtains were moving on that gusty evening .... and that is the nature of gusts, sometimes
they blow and sometimes they don't; it is calm.

[mercury]

Well, three people have said that they like this.


They cant have read it tho' because it says that ROB did the check before Madeleine disappeared. 
further it says that ROB claimed he could see inside the kids bedroom on his check

ROB never checked the McCann children; it was Matt that did that

Partisan voting, the post wasn't even read by the voters !    What a nonsense !

You are confused sadie it seems about peoples statements and also wrong in attacking the forum

[pegasus]

I mentioned a case in Tennesee, and another in Arizona, when kids were at home but parents were out, burglary started, and the kids concealed themselves somewhere in the residence.

[sadie]

You are confused sadie it seems about peoples statements and also wrong in attacking the forum

It is pathfinder who is confused and mistaken,  Not me ... as you well know.  Matt did the checking, NOT ROB


Yet three on your side ticked the "like" box.  that shows how little it was read.   Partisan voting.

This makes a mockery of the "like" boxes.  Partisan voting without even reading will always have your side with more 'likes" ... cos you have at least twice the number of posters on your side

Only two of the group said they went into the 5A before Madeleine disappeared - ROB on a check and .... ...... on that visit when he saw Kate in her invisible towel. All the others claim they first went inside their apartment after Madeleine disappeared. ROB claimed he could see inside the kids bedroom on his check and didn't mention opening the door. Most enlightening if true as It blows the ajar story to pieces! The door moves are key to this case.

[misty]

I mentioned a case in Tennesee, and another in Arizona, when kids were at home but parents were out, burglary started, and the kids concealed themselves somewhere.

Were those children under 4 & unable to use a mobile phone in a foreign country?