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Alfie

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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1485 on: June 04, 2016, 11:20:00 PM »
And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
what a strange response to my post.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1486 on: June 04, 2016, 11:28:10 PM »
According to the O.G remit the PJ retain primacy and The MPS provide assistance.
The MPS have no powers in Portugal.
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Offline lordpookles

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1487 on: June 04, 2016, 11:35:01 PM »
Portugal have been fairly accommodating. Consider the roles reversed and Portuguese police or any police from another country over here digging the land up and searching. From appearances so far I can't think of an example where they have denied a request.

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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1488 on: June 05, 2016, 06:46:33 AM »
Yes, that was the case I had in mind also, so you understand my point then.

Are you suggesting that the PJ have behaved in a similar manner? I think you need more than opinion or innuendo to make such an accusation. Do you have any verifiable grounds?
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Alfie

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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1489 on: June 05, 2016, 09:27:49 AM »
Are you suggesting that the PJ have behaved in a similar manner? I think you need more than opinion or innuendo to make such an accusation. Do you have any verifiable grounds?
I think you need to re-read my posts and calm down with the interrogation.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1490 on: June 05, 2016, 10:19:28 AM »
When does "only asking questions" become "interrogation" and viki verki ......................... &%+((£
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« Reply #1491 on: June 05, 2016, 10:43:21 AM »
I think you need to re-read my posts and calm down with the interrogation.

I have re-read your posts and it stll looks as if you are accusing the Portuguese authorities of wrongdoing. If not, I'm sure yu can clarify.
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« Reply #1492 on: June 05, 2016, 10:54:41 AM »
I have re-read your posts and it stll looks as if you are accusing the Portuguese authorities of wrongdoing. If not, I'm sure yu can clarify.

Not sure if you have noticed but the McCanns have been accused of wrongdoing for the past nine years and it doesn't seem to have bothered you in the slightest

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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1493 on: June 05, 2016, 11:15:51 AM »
Not sure if you have noticed but the McCanns have been accused of wrongdoing for the past nine years and it doesn't seem to have bothered you in the slightest

Not by me. If someone is accusing the Portuguese of wrongdoing they need to provide the facts they are basing their accusations on. Why should the Portuguese authorities feel ashamed in the same way that those responsible for Hillsborough should feel ashamed is what I'm asking, because that's what I've deduced is being said. If I've misunderstood I will apologise.
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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1494 on: June 05, 2016, 11:42:32 AM »
I have re-read your posts and it stll looks as if you are accusing the Portuguese authorities of wrongdoing. If not, I'm sure yu can clarify.
My posts speak for themselves and are crystal clear.  I have nothing further to add.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1495 on: June 05, 2016, 11:45:00 AM »
Not by me. If someone is accusing the Portuguese of wrongdoing they need to provide the facts they are basing their accusations on. Why should the Portuguese authorities feel ashamed in the same way that those responsible for Hillsborough should feel ashamed is what I'm asking, because that's what I've deduced is being said. If I've misunderstood I will apologise.
You have regularly implied the McCanns are lying
The Portuguese authorities should feel ashamed because of the mess they made of the investigation
They should feel ashamed for allowing amaral to defame the McCanns
The evidence to support both these statements has been posted many times

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1496 on: June 05, 2016, 12:08:57 PM »
You have regularly implied the McCanns are lying
The Portuguese authorities should feel ashamed because of the mess they made of the investigation
They should feel ashamed for allowing amaral to defame the McCanns
The evidence to support both these statements has been posted many times
Evidence? What evidence? 

You do not appear to like the court decision, which is quite different to evidence.  You have an opinion as to the conduct of the investigation, which is quite different to evidence.

Should OG feel ASHAMED because they have thrown 12 million and man years at it without solving the case?
What's up, old man?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1497 on: June 05, 2016, 12:35:16 PM »
You have regularly implied the McCanns are lying
The Portuguese authorities should feel ashamed because of the mess they made of the investigation
They should feel ashamed for allowing amaral to defame the McCanns
The evidence to support both these statements has been posted many times

I haven't implied the McCanns are lying, they have. If they make contradictory statements how can they both be true?

Please define 'mess', with cites. Please remember Amaral is guilty of defaming no-one at the moment. Sometimes people think they have 'evidence' when they haven't.
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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1498 on: June 05, 2016, 12:46:26 PM »
My posts speak for themselves and are crystal clear.  I have nothing further to add.

Thats up to you if you don't mind standing by what seems to be just your opinion because you offer no facts. It would help if you said it was just your opinion in my opinion. You said;

I think the Portuguese authorities would be embarrassed because it would confirm without doubt that their initial investigation, leading to the making arguidos of the McCanns was a complete cock-up.  It would be embarrassing because of how quickly they gave up on the case when there were many leads left un-followed up.  It would also prove that "national hero" Amaral's judgement was seriously flawed,  that under his and his colleagues' watch they allowed a child abductor to evade justice for many years.

All of the bolded amounts need cites or they remain opinion.
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Re: The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.
« Reply #1499 on: June 05, 2016, 01:39:09 PM »
Thats up to you if you don't mind standing by what seems to be just your opinion because you offer no facts. It would help if you said it was just your opinion in my opinion. You said;

I think the Portuguese authorities would be embarrassed because it would confirm without doubt that their initial investigation, leading to the making arguidos of the McCanns was a complete cock-up.  It would be embarrassing because of how quickly they gave up on the case when there were many leads left un-followed up.  It would also prove that "national hero" Amaral's judgement was seriously flawed,  that under his and his colleagues' watch they allowed a child abductor to evade justice for many years.

All of the bolded amounts need cites or they remain opinion.
When I preface a post with the statement "I think" isn't it fairly obvious that what I am offering is my opinion?  If opinions are no longer allowed on this forum then please point me to the rule which outlaws it, alternatively if you don't like me expressing my opinion don't read it.