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Offline John

Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« on: April 30, 2016, 05:51:44 PM »
I think this is worth reviewing here given its importance to the case.

I don't recall seeing any reference to a panic alarm in any of the documents released into the public domain, certainly Jeremy Bamber never mentioned it in any of his interviews with police.  Jeremy would have been privy to everything that went on at the farm so I cannot believe for a minute that he wouldn't have been aware of a police panic alarm having been fitted.

The invention of an alarm is convenient for supporters since it could have explained why police were able to get to the scene so quickly.  However, given the urgency of the 3.26am call to police by Jeremy Bamber I see no reason why the police couldn't have arrived when they did.

Does anyone have further information on this claim?


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« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 08:20:23 PM by John »
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Offline Myster

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2016, 06:22:04 PM »
The only alarm I've read about was a standard one (probably using infra-red motion detectors in certain GF rooms?) fitted soon after the murders, because the house was so isolated and going to be unoccupied for many months. CAL states that the police or Jeremy had it installed although it might have been a joint decision.
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Offline APRIL

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2016, 06:43:42 PM »
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Over the past few years I have always argued that a Panic alarm was installed at Whitehouse farm prior to the murders and that Bamber deliberately set this off. I was wrong.

Caroline was entirely correct when she argued against me and was also correct about the notes that Bobby Boutflour wrote about Bamber setting off the alarm.

No Panic alarm was installed at Whitehouse before the murders.

The button I have seen is one that was installed afterwards. Bamber accompanied the fitter whilst it was fitted.

After the murders, Bamber sat in the kitchen with the alarm set and waited for Barbara Wilson to enter the back door. Much to her surprise the alarm went off, even though Bamber was sat at the kitchen table. When she asked him what he was playing at, he said he wanted to see if the police would arrive quickly or not. Barbara phoned the Police and cancelled the call out.

I have always told the truth on the forum and when it was pointed out to me this morning that I'd got it wrong I thought it correct to apologise.


http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4232.msg173041.html#msg173041
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 08:18:03 PM by John »

Offline adam

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 09:14:14 AM »
Was the panic alarm in case there was a panic if Sheila got a rifle and started shooting everyone ? The same Sheila who had come over for a holiday and had difficulty getting off sofa's and putting sugar in coffee ?

Was it supposed to trigger off an alarm at the police station ? In that case the police would know there was one and why. They would have surely released this information. Especially if Neville said it was installed because he was worried about a potential gun attack.

Or was the panic alarm just set to go off at WHF ? Which is a bit pointless as it is very remote.

Either way no panic alarm was set off on the massacre night.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 10:14:17 AM by adam »

Offline adam

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2016, 10:23:41 AM »
It is common for farm houses to get broken into. Tony Martin ended up shooting a burglar after repeatedly getting burgled.

However it seems this was not the case at WHF. I have never read anything about it being broken into by burglars. There is no evidence of an alarm system, or bars or extra locks put on the windows. Bamber was not a professional burglar but said he could get into WHF via several windows.

Offline APRIL

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2016, 10:36:26 AM »
It is common for farm houses to get broken into. Tony Martin ended up shooting a burglar after repeatedly getting burgled.

However it seems this was not the case at WHF. I have never read anything about it being broken into by burglars. There is no evidence of an alarm system, or bars or extra locks put on the windows. Bamber was not a professional burglar but said he could get into WHF via several windows.

None of the farmers, known to me, have ever been burgled -although an attempt was made on one, but thanks to the security lights which triggered the alarm system, it failed. Tony Martin's place was particularly isolated and probably not well secured. I think he may have thought the threat of his gun would be security enough.

Offline Daisy

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2016, 11:15:31 AM »
There was no type of alarm installed at WHF panic or otherwise before the murders. This information came directly from Jeremy as I asked him when I visited. This thread should be archived now as it is pointless discussing it. The question has been raised and the answer is categorically NO.

Offline adam

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2016, 12:46:33 PM »
It is most likely supporters who bring this up. Why, I don't know. Maybe to allege Neville was worried about someone from outside the family attacking him. Of which there is also no evidence.

Whether Neville was scared or not is meaningless. Bamber said Neville rang him saying 'Sheila had gone crazy'. He did briefly say Neville may have said 'She' after the police said Sheila could not have shot herself twice. However he quickly reverted back to Sheila and has stayed consistent on this since.

Neville would have secured all windows with locks and bars if he was concerned. Panic over.

Offline adam

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2016, 12:56:01 PM »
Neville did say to BW he was concerned he might die in a shooting accident. And that he must 'never turn his back on that man'.

This suggests he was expecting Bamber to attack him on the farm. During the day. And then Bamber to leave the scene and deny knowledge. Or claim it was a shooting accident.

Bamber would at least then be able to run the farm and would inherit something. Along with other family members.

Neville was not expecting Bamber to be greedy, callous and ambitious enough to go after everyone.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2016, 01:12:41 PM by adam »

Offline John

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2016, 08:19:51 PM »
Thank you to everyone for your comments, we can now put another myth to bed.   8((()*/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline puglove

Re: Some claim Nevill Bamber had a panic alarm fitted.
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2016, 10:54:20 PM »
Thank you to everyone for your comments, we can now put another myth to bed.   8((()*/

To be fair, John, this myth was put to bed yonks ago, around the time Mike was insisting that Sheila wrote "Special Branch" in her own blood, beneath the bible. His silly, attention seeking lies (allegedly to "stimulate debate") have done incalculable damage to Bamber's already wobbly credibility over the years. If he was Pinocchio he wouldn't need to heave bricks through his neighbours' windows, he could poke them out with his nose. 
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.