"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[ShiningInLuz]

Not odd in the slightest...just you not understanding how the McCanns mind work
They felt it was important to get the most accurate timeline to help with the investigation. The best way to do this was to pool knowledge a sap whilst it was still fresh in their minds
The reason some suspect the McCanns is because they misunderstand perfectly normal actions

I'm sure it is in one of the rogatories that the 2 drawn up on the child's book were done while the McCanns were talking to the police that night, so I was not commenting on the McCann mindset.

And no, the best way forward would have been to remember individually what each individual had done, because there is less chance of contamination.

If I had not known the details of your checks, say, all I need to do is state that I don't know, not make mine fit some agreed pattern.  It was up to the police to join them up, not the T9.

[faithlilly]

The first reconstruction should have gone ahead,  Amaral cancelled it.    He has no authority at all now to ask for one.

The decision to cancel the early reconstruction was taken by Amaral's superior, not Amaral.

[pegasus]

Exactly what time did the child leave the apartment?
That is the important question.
A reconstruction limited to the one and a half hours from 8.30pm to 10pm won't solve that.

[Mr Gray]

I'm sure it is in one of the rogatories that the 2 drawn up on the child's book were done while the McCanns were talking to the police that night, so I was not commenting on the McCann mindset.

And no, the best way forward would have been to remember individually what each individual had done, because there is less chance of contamination.

If I had not known the details of your checks, say, all I need to do is state that I don't know, not make mine fit some agreed pattern.  It was up to the police to join them up, not the T9.

you should add your posts are your opinion...I would say that the joint time line....pooling knowledge would be far more likely to produce a more accurate timeline...and I have no problem using the book..Maddie may well have had many of these books...so for  me...nothing odd at all...and nothing odd in prostrations taht amaral found so strange....nothing odd in just about everything that the mccanns did. Posters see these as odd in their own minds and then THINK this puts doubt towards the McCanns

[Lace]

The decision to cancel the early reconstruction was taken by Amaral's superior, not Amaral.

Ok,  but no fault of the McCann's,   Amaral still hasn't got the authority to ask for a reconstruction now,  he has nothing to do with the investigation.

[Eleanor]

Ok,  but no fault of the McCann's,   Amaral still hasn't got the authority to ask for a reconstruction now,  he has nothing to do with the investigation.

All wind and water, Love.  Amaral is being paid for spouting this rubbish.

[Benice]

I'm sure it is in one of the rogatories that the 2 drawn up on the child's book were done while the McCanns were talking to the police that night, so I was not commenting on the McCann mindset.

And no, the best way forward would have been to remember individually what each individual had done, because there is less chance of contamination.

If I had not known the details of your checks, say, all I need to do is state that I don't know, not make mine fit some agreed pattern.  It was up to the police to join them up, not the T9.

Not necessarily SiL.   When you have a large group of people talking amongst themselves - what one person may have missed - another one may have noticed.

For instance - IIRC at first Russell thought Jayne had left the table at the same time as Gerry.  However, on discussing it - Jayne would be able to remind him that she left after Gerry because she was still there when they began wondering where he'd got to.  (watching football was suggested as the reason). 

As soon as they had finished writing down the timelines - they handed it to a policeman who was with them. Apparently he said ' thats what we want' - so it could be they were asked to write it down.  (from memory so could be wrong).

 

[Mr Gray]

Not necessarily SiL.   When you have a large group of people talking amongst themselves - what one person may have missed - another one may have noticed.

For instance - IIRC at first Russell thought Jayne had left the table at the same time as Gerry.  However, on discussing it - Jayne would be able to remind him that she left after Gerry because was still there when they began wondering where he'd got to.  (watching football was suggested as the reason). 

As soon as they had finished writing down the timelines - they handed it to a policeman who was with them. Apparently he said ' thats what we want' - so it could be they were asked to write it down.  (from memory so could be wrong).

It's a technique similar to brainstorming and something the McCanns would be familiar with

[G-Unit]

Not odd in the slightest...just you not understanding how the McCanns mind work
They felt it was important to get the most accurate timeline to help with the investigation. The best way to do this was to pool knowledge a sap whilst it was still fresh in their minds
The reason some suspect the McCanns is because they misunderstand perfectly normal actions

As you claim to know how their minds work how exactly did they feel an accurate mutually agreed timeline would help? What would it tell the investigators about the abduction?

[Eleanor]

It doesn't seem in the least bit odd to me that The Tapas 9 discussed it and wrote it down.  They were hardly planning a defence after the event.

[Eleanor]

As you claim to know how their minds work how exactly did they feel an accurate mutually agreed timeline would help? What would it tell the investigators about the abduction?

"Mutually Agreed" suggests Collusion.  I hope you aren't suggesting that.

[G-Unit]

I'm sure it is in one of the rogatories that the 2 drawn up on the child's book were done while the McCanns were talking to the police that night, so I was not commenting on the McCann mindset.

And no, the best way forward would have been to remember individually what each individual had done, because there is less chance of contamination.

If I had not known the details of your checks, say, all I need to do is state that I don't know, not make mine fit some agreed pattern.  It was up to the police to join them up, not the T9.

I agree. Producing a group timeline caused confusion and hampered the investigation imo. Once they did that they became one witness, not nine. When their statements strayed from the agreed version it looked suspicious. It wasn't the right thing to do and I don't understand why they thought it would help.

[ShiningInLuz]

Not necessarily SiL.   When you have a large group of people talking amongst themselves - what one person may have missed - another one may have noticed.

For instance - IIRC at first Russell thought Jayne had left the table at the same time as Gerry.  However, on discussing it - Jayne would be able to remind him that she left after Gerry because she was still there when they began wondering where he'd got to.  (watching football was suggested as the reason). 

As soon as they had finished writing down the timelines - they handed it to a policeman who was with them. Apparently he said ' thats what we want' - so it could be they were asked to write it down.  (from memory so could be wrong).

I'm sorry.  I don't see Jayne 'correcting' Russell before first interviews as the way to go.  It was the job of the PJ to detect and sort out any conflicts, not the T9.

I'd have the same issue if any other cohesive group got together and sorted out what they were going to say, in advance of interviews.  I seem to remember at least one dog team did that, and produced statements that are worded nearly identically.  Is that how it is supposed to work?  Not for me.

And some of the very odd times we've got from staff.  Should those staff members have got together in advance to work out the collective tale?  Again, not for me.

I got assaulted once (very minor).  The first thing the police did was to separate me from my partner so they got independent statements from both of us.

[Mr Gray]

As you claim to know how their minds work how exactly did they feel an accurate mutually agreed timeline would help? What would it tell the investigators about the abduction?

By working together they would produce a more accurate timeline
That would be of the most value to the investigation
You won't agree because you want to find things to raise suspicion...absolutely nothing suspicious as far as I am concerned

[Alice Purjorick]

"Mutually Agreed" suggests Collusion.  I hope you aren't suggesting that.

Really?
Not in my world.

Mutually agreed= having the consent of all parties e.g as in a contract.
Collusion= illegal cooperation in order to deceive others. e.g as in a cartel.