"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[pegasus]

How about a reconstruction of Wednesday 8pm to 1am?
The aim would be to discover at what time the Wednesday night crying (see statement by MM) stopped.

[stephen25000]

This of course, is obvious.

Not really.

...and it isn't going to happen.

[ShiningInLuz]

The statement by redwood is evidence of their non involvement...the fact that they are not being investigated is evidence of their non involvement . You have NO evidence that SY have been told not to investigate the McCanns.
The idea that SY have reviewed all the evidence and ignored any implicating the McCanns is simply ridiculous.
You seem to have a problem accepting evidence which points to the non involvement of the McCanns

when was the remit drawn up....was it not after SY had looked at the files...looked at the evidence and seen there was nothing to mimplicate the McCanns

Why are you asking me when the remit was drawn up, then speculating when the remit was drawn up, and why the remit was drawn up?

If OG investigated everything, and concluded the McCanns were not involved, then OG did not need a remit to say the McCanns were to be excluded.  It would then be a pointless remit.

If you have any evidence whatsoever that the McCanns were investigated, then kindly provide it.

In the absence of such evidence we are left with the remit, which excludes the McCanns.  And Andy Redwood conforming to the remit tells us only that was conforming to the remit.

[pegasus]

(snip) ... the sealed apartment.

How about a timeline of the so-called sealing of the apartment?
Why does the proposed reconstruction limit itself to the period 8.30pm-10pm?

[pathfinder73]

One thing is very clear Brietta - the crying was on Wednesday night.
Listen to the most important witness - who says the crying was on Wednesday night.
The most important statement was not made four months after the event.
It was made only eight hours after, when the recollection was still fresh and accurate.

Do you believe they didn't check the phone records or Edna for the day? Really? Police check up on this like checking the McCanns mobile records which were deleted.

TUE night Madeleine Beth McCann was crying.

[G-Unit]

Surely you are not disputing the accuracy of the statement made by the child herself, just eight hours later, that the crying was on the Wednesday night.

The child made no statement. Other people alleged she did.

[pathfinder73]

The child made no statement. Other people alleged she did.

An abductor would be blamed. Don't forget a mysterious stain. Tried the night before  *&*%£

[Brietta]

Do you believe they didn't check the phone records or Edna for the day? Really? Police check up on this like checking the McCanns mobile records which were deleted.

TUE night Madeleine Beth McCann was crying.

When exactly did they learn that Mrs Fenn had heard a crying child?

[pegasus]

The child made no statement.(snip)

I am trying to solve this case on the basis that KM's account is truthful G-Unit that the child did state that she cried on Wednesday night. Obviously if you just say oh KM is lying the child never said anything at breakfast then my approach is rubbish.
IMO any reconstruction limited to the tiny Thu 8.30pm-10pm period is ridiculous. It would need to also cover Wed 8pm-1am, and also extend hours after Thu 10pm.

[pathfinder73]

I am trying to solve this case on the basis that KM's account is truthful G-Unit that the child did state that she cried on Wednesday night. Obviously if you just say oh KM is lying the child never said anything at breakfast then my approach is rubbish.
IMO any reconstruction limited to the tiny Thu 8.30pm-10pm period is ridiculous. It would need to also cover Wed 8pm-1am, and also extend hours after Thu 10pm.

You should try the approach that nobody is telling the truth (like the perp(s)). Truth should be corroborated from other witness statements.

Example:

"the guest returned, at about 21.45." waiter Ricardo Alexandre da Luz Oliveira

"The Tapas staff kindly re-cooked my main course’, because I got back at twenty-one forty-five." ROB

[Mr Gray]

Why are you asking me when the remit was drawn up, then speculating when the remit was drawn up, and why the remit was drawn up?

If OG investigated everything, and concluded the McCanns were not involved, then OG did not need a remit to say the McCanns were to be excluded.  It would then be a pointless remit.

If you have any evidence whatsoever that the McCanns were investigated, then kindly provide it.

In the absence of such evidence we are left with the remit, which excludes the McCanns.  And Andy Redwood conforming to the remit tells us only that was conforming to the remit.

The important point is when was the remit drawn up...you do not seem to know. As far as I am aware it was drawn up after SY had considered the evidence in the files..then decided that in their opinion...based on the evidence ..maddie had been removed from the apartment by a stranger.....now where have we heard that before.

The statement that the McCanns were not suspects is evidence of their non involvement...the Mccanns are innocent...you seem to suspect them on points you have misunderstood...such as the group timeline

[Brietta]

I am trying to solve this case on the basis that KM's account is truthful G-Unit that the child did state that she cried on Wednesday night. Obviously if you just say oh KM is lying the child never said anything at breakfast then my approach is rubbish.
IMO any reconstruction limited to the tiny Thu 8.30pm-10pm period is ridiculous. It would need to also cover Wed 8pm-1am, and also extend hours after Thu 10pm.

The statement was made to assist the investigators by giving them a better understanding and leaving absolutely nothing out.  It wasn't a statement made to cast the parents in a better light or to excuse them ... it was made to allow for the fact that the children may have been disturbed on the evening prior to Madeleine's disappearance.

[Alice Purjorick]

If I was to produce the abductor....who admitted being responsible...the sailors here would cry patsy

A nice swerve in a failed attempt to cover up that you cannot do what I asked.

[pathfinder73]

Two statements corroborate 9:45 - Russell returning to the table.

Do you know what time it is on the first timeline?

9:55

10 minutes out again.

I hope SY are looking into these important lost 10 minutes in this case because I have! My theory fits with these lost times.

9pm to 9:10

10pm to 10:10



p.s. the name at the bottom 

[pegasus]

The statement was made to assist the investigators by giving them a better understanding and leaving absolutely nothing out.  It wasn't a statement made to cast the parents in a better light or to excuse them ... it was made to allow for the fact that the children may have been disturbed on the evening prior to Madeleine's disappearance.

Agreed, although I assume the child's statement was completely true and therefore there was definitely crying on Wednesday night and that it was significant enough for the child to mention.

What I don't understand is why people can't see that this crying reported by the child was most likely in the period 11.05pm to 11.50pm. There were no listening checks made inside that period. A reconstruction of Wednesday night would confirm this IMO.