Author Topic: "We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.  (Read 190825 times)

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stephen25000

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The Portuguese despite what many many think are no fools.

They can see exactly what SY were told to do.

Offline Montclair

Whilst I await for a new thread to be started on this.................

http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/carlos-anjos-i-believe-that-there-is.html?m=1

Unfortunately, Carlos Anjos is basing his opinion on what has been printed in the MSM in the UK. I would have thought that he would have realised by now that most of it is garbage and PR from Clarence Mitchell.

stephen25000

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Unfortunately, Carlos Anjos is basing his opinion on what has been printed in the MSM in the UK. I would have thought that he would have realised by now that most of it is garbage and PR from Clarence Mitchell.

You may be right, but I'll bet you, when the SY investigation is shelved, what he said will be what is said.

Offline Mr Gray

The Portuguese despite what many many think are no fools.

They can see exactly what SY were told to do.


the link you posted contained this line...the dogs that detected cadaver scent...anyone who believes that as a fact ..is  a fool. It proves the portuguese understand nothing

stephen25000

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I am well aware of what the link has in it's contents.

The dogs did respond to scents, FACT.

The forensic testing was inconclusive, FACT.

..and I predict that when the SY investigation is shelved as it will in due course, it will be an attempt to exonerate the mccanns.


Offline Mr Gray

I am well aware of what the link has in it's contents.

The dogs did respond to scents, FACT.

The forensic testing was inconclusive, FACT.

..and I predict that when the SY investigation is shelved as it will in due course, it will be an attempt to exonerate the mccanns.

If the forensics were inconclusive then he cannot claim the dogs detected cadaver scent ...do you not understand that simple fact
And yes SY will exonerate the McCanns... Because they are innocent

Offline ShiningInLuz

It is inconceivable that Scotland Yard did not at some point question The McCanns.  Just what sort of dickheads do people think they are, in a 12 Million Pound Enquiry?  Bent or otherwise.

Do any of you think that this isn't On Record?  Or that the lack of would pass notice?  Just stop being so bloody silly.
It is far from inconceivable.  And 7 months isn't enough to assess the files and decide the McCanns are innocent.  Otherwise what on Earth has OG been doing since Jan 12?

However, from the exchanges, it would appear it has been discussed before, and while it might be relevant to an OG time line, it is not relevant to the time line Amaral is talking about.  Therefore I shall cease this line of enquiry.

My thanks to those who have given me an update on this.
What's up, old man?

stephen25000

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The crime, if any , remains unknown.

As are the guilty party or parties, if there was a crime.

The SY investigation had one one remit, abduction.

They have failed to find anything, as I any many other people predicted would happen.

A shelving of the case will not benefit the Mccanns one iota.

stephen25000

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Oh dear.

How quaint.

Meanwhile the SY investigation will be shelved, and an attempt made to absolve the Mccanns.

Won't work.

Offline Alice Purjorick

#the argument now is your claim that the remit was contemporaneous with the setting up of grange...the link you quoted does not confirm this

I think I said:
"The announcement of Operation Grange, its remit and who was taking over from whom was contemporaneous".
The Website confirms it. If you don't want to believe it and have been sucked in by blonk's hypothesis that is not my problem.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Everything you have posted is your opinion which unfortunately counts for nothing.As Eleanor has pointed out the idea that Grange has not interviewed thecCanns is simply ridiculous. Your idea that you could be of any help to the investigation... is also ridiculous based on what you have posted here...imo of course
You don't get to understand the files in 7 months.  It would have taken that long to get the files translated.

You do not rule someone out merely by interviewing them.

And if you are going to continually jibe about any potential help to the McCanns, do yourself a favour.  Read my post about how I have no wish to participate in an investigation.  A civilian investigating a crime is illegal in Portugal, and I do NOT break the law.

You can continue to ignore the fact that I have said I would be happy to plug in a knowledge of Luz.  In doing so, you come across as being someone who would prefer that another PI team makes the same pig's ear of it as all of those teams which have gone before.

I'm beginning to wonder if Madeleine is your focus, and whether you care.  Another option is that ignorance is bliss.  The final option I can think of is that you see this as something personal re me.  None of these options appear to me to be positive.
What's up, old man?

Offline pegasus

What if someone discovered something later than 10pm?
A reconstruction which stops artificially at 10pm would do nothing towards detecting that.

Offline pegasus

This proposed reconstruction is a bit like trying to solve 9/11 by doing a reconstruction of a tiny part of 7/11.

Offline G-Unit

It is inconceivable that Scotland Yard did not at some point question The McCanns.  Just what sort of dickheads do people think they are, in a 12 Million Pound Enquiry?  Bent or otherwise.

Do any of you think that this isn't On Record?  Or that the lack of would pass notice?  Just stop being so bloody silly.

The Home Office asked Scotland Yard to get involved. They are paying. This is what they said about the case in January 2009 when refusing an FOI request. It suggests to me that they had an opinion on what had happened to Madeleine;

Any prejudicial effects to these ongoing investigations could jeopardise the health & safety, of Madeline McCann, in that it might significantly affect the chances of her being found.

s.38 – Health & Safety
 
(1) Information is exempt information if its disclosure under this Act would, or would be likely to-
 
(a) endanger the physical or mental health of any individual, or
(b) endanger the safety of any individual.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id282.html

The FOI request was;

It is noted that your request was to essentially seek information for any record or document or extract thereof reporting or evidencing that neither of the parents of Madeleine Beth McCann possessed any credit card or debit card from any financial institution during the period 25th April 2007 and 12th September 2007. You additionally requested any record or document or extract thereof reporting or evidencing that the alleged affirmation was made by any official of the Home Office to any police officer in the Leicestershire Constabulary and failing the existence of any written record whether such affirmation was made verbally the name of the official(s) and the recipient officer(s). The request was also seeking information of any record or document or extract reporting or evidencing the credit card or debit transactions made by the parents of Madeleine Beth McCann between the 4th May 2007 and 21st July 2008.
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Offline Mr Gray

You don't get to understand the files in 7 months.  It would have taken that long to get the files translated.

You do not rule someone out merely by interviewing them.

And if you are going to continually jibe about any potential help to the McCanns, do yourself a favour.  Read my post about how I have no wish to participate in an investigation.  A civilian investigating a crime is illegal in Portugal, and I do NOT break the law.

You can continue to ignore the fact that I have said I would be happy to plug in a knowledge of Luz.  In doing so, you come across as being someone who would prefer that another PI team makes the same pig's ear of it as all of those teams which have gone before.

I'm beginning to wonder if Madeleine is your focus, and whether you care.  Another option is that ignorance is bliss.  The final option I can think of is that you see this as something personal re me.  None of these options appear to me to be positive.

You wonder whether I care about Maddie...how much can you get wrong. The one thing that I believe everyone on this forum has in common is that they care about maddie..as regards translating the files...SY would be able to interview the mccanns...the tapas 9...how long would that take...they have decided they are not suspects...your theories are wrong..get over it
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