The McCanns will have been interviewed by Operation Grange.

[Mr Gray]

I believe she said that Heriberto  considered other options, but when did he do that  exactly ?

I have only read some of his blog, so does anyone know how many cases he has helped solved in aiding the police ?

no she said Heri had not rules out the McCanns...which is untrue

[Brietta]

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[ShiningInLuz]

Redwood himself was in Portugal. Can we assume he sat in on the interviews or do you need a photograph.

Redwood being Portugal has to nothing to do with further interviews of the McCanns, the establishment of the remit of OG, or your claim re the inside workings of OG and your police experience.

Just so our guests are clear on this, as you do not seem to be.

[Mr Gray]

Redwood being Portugal has to nothing to do with further interviews of the McCanns, the establishment of the remit of OG, or your claim re the inside workings of OG and your police experience.

Just so our guests are clear on this, as you do not seem to be.

Redwood being in portugal has a lot to do with how the police work...you seem to be trying very hard simply to score points

what our gusts will be clear on is that the anti mccann lies seen on other forums is not allowed here

[ShiningInLuz]

so why is sil claiming he hasn't ruled out the mccanns...

During our discussions, he made it clear that his approach is open minded.  He read the files.  Then, he constructed a theorem and re-read the files, improved the theorem, re-read the files etc.

And although he has refined his theorem multiple times, he is not promoting it as the only option, or one that his ´honour´ depends on.

He would quite happily accept a different outcome, subject to a degree of confidence in it.

I discussed with him one alternative he had not considered, which happens to be at odds with his theory, and he recommended that I bring it to the attention of OG.

So, fresh insight, not in line with theory, and he was very interested.

He is neither for or against the McCanns.  He wants justice for Madeleine, which is quite different.

Please do not take complex ideas and boil them down into 'sceptic' and supporter, when there are other options.

Any evidence re McCann interviews?  Or how/when the OG remit was constructed?  Or how your experience of police procedures compares to those used on the UKs largest police investigation in modern times?

[Mr Gray]

During our discussions, he made it clear that his approach is open minded.  He read the files.  Then, he constructed a theorem and re-read the files, improved the theorem, re-read the files etc.

And although he has refined his theorem multiple times, he is not promoting it as the only option, or one that his ´honour´ depends on.

He would quite happily accept a different outcome, subject to a degree of confidence in it.

I discussed with him one alternative he had not considered, which happens to be at odds with his theory, and he recommended that I bring it to the attention of OG.

So, fresh insight, not in line with theory, and he was very interested.

He is neither for or against the McCanns.  He wants justice for Madeleine, which is quite different.

Please do not take complex ideas and boil them down into 'sceptic' and supporter, when there are other options.

Any evidence re McCann interviews?  Or how/when the OG remit was constructed?  Or how your experience of police procedures compares to those used on the UKs largest police investigation in modern times?

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So when did he say he had not ruled out the McCanns...as you have claimed...you now appear to be back tracking.

[Mr Gray]

During our discussions, he made it clear that his approach is open minded.  He read the files.  Then, he constructed a theorem and re-read the files, improved the theorem, re-read the files etc.

And although he has refined his theorem multiple times, he is not promoting it as the only option, or one that his ´honour´ depends on.

He would quite happily accept a different outcome, subject to a degree of confidence in it.

I discussed with him one alternative he had not considered, which happens to be at odds with his theory, and he recommended that I bring it to the attention of OG.

So, fresh insight, not in line with theory, and he was very interested.

He is neither for or against the McCanns.  He wants justice for Madeleine, which is quite different.

Please do not take complex ideas and boil them down into 'sceptic' and supporter, when there are other options.

Any evidence re McCann interviews?  Or how/when the OG remit was constructed?  Or how your experience of police procedures compares to those used on the UKs largest police investigation in modern times?

we only have your word for that...and on the basis of the fact you have said he has not ruled out the mccanns I don't have confidence you understood what he said properly

[ShiningInLuz]

Redwood being in portugal has a lot to do with how the police work...you seem to be trying very hard simply to score points

what our gusts will be clear on is that the anti mccann lies seen on other forums is not allowed here

Repeat. Redwood being to Portugal has to nothing to do with further interviews of the McCanns, the establishment of the remit of OG, or your claim re the inside workings of OG and your police experience.

The topic is about further interviews of the McCanns, and whether that shaped the OG remit.

Do you have any evidence to support the view you have repeated time and time again?  Or is it possible you could simply state it is your opinion, in order that our guests are clear on this?

Clarify that it is merely your opinion, and I'm done.  I don't have issues with anyone's opinion, labelled as such.

[Mr Gray]

Repeat. Redwood being to Portugal has to nothing to do with further interviews of the McCanns, the establishment of the remit of OG, or your claim re the inside workings of OG and your police experience.

The topic is about further interviews of the McCanns, and whether that shaped the OG remit.

Do you have any evidence to support the view you have repeated time and time again?  Or is it possible you could simply state it is your opinion, in order that our guests are clear on this?

Clarify that it is merely your opinion, and I'm done.  I don't have issues with anyone's opinion, labelled as such.

repeat repaet repeat.....redwoods presence in Portugal was made in response to a post about chains of command...do you not read the posts...check again...


the topic is ...The McCanns will have been interviewed by Operation Grange...and most on the forum seem to believe they have

[ShiningInLuz]

we only have your word for that...and on the basis of the fact you have said he has not ruled out the mccanns I don't have confidence you understood what he said properly

I am going to recommend, once and once only, that you don't take that route.

I have published that which you put in red twice in open forum, and Heri has the opportunity to agree that it happened, or not.  And as you claim you have PMd him, and as his web-site has his contact details, you have got methods of getting in touch if this is of interest to you.

You are in a thread about whether the McCanns have been interviewed or not.  You have offered no evidence of this whatsoever.

[Mr Gray]

I am going to recommend, once and once only, that you don't take that route.

I have published that which you put in red twice in open forum, and Heri has the opportunity to agree that it happened, or not.  And as you claim you have PMd him, and as his web-site has his contact details, you have got methods of getting in touch if this is of interest to you.

You are in a thread about whether the McCanns have been interviewed or not.  You have offered no evidence of this whatsoever.

I have already pmd Heri and he has replied to me as you know...he does not consider the parents to be involved..

I have offered evidence that the mccanns have been interviewed..are you sure you do not mean proof

[John]

I have already pmd Heri and he has replied to me as you know...he does not consider the parents to be involved..

I have offered evidence that the mccanns have been interviewed..are you sure you do not mean proof

Involved in what exactly?  I would like to hear from Heriberto as to what evidence he has used to make the determination.

They were certainly involved in other things going on in Portugal in 2007 after the disappearance, so I again wonder if Heriberto has any views on that.

[ShiningInLuz]

I have already pmd Heri and he has replied to me as you know...he does not consider the parents to be involved..

I have offered evidence that the mccanns have been interviewed..are you sure you do not mean proof

You have offered your opinion that they should have been.  In this particular instance, I am in agreement.

You have offered not an iota of evidence to support your opinion.

Now you have your opportunity.  If you provide the evidence you claim you posted, all you have to do is point at your post, and I'm left without a leg to stand on. 

So your evidence is ................. drum-roll ..................  anticipation ............

[Eleanor]

No need for goading.  Thank You.

[stephen25000]

Involved in what exactly?

I would add to that, why are  Heriberto's theories of any relevance to the solving of this case ?

What is his track record ?