The McCanns will have been interviewed by Operation Grange.

[Miss Taken Identity]

OK, so we'll agree it's there for a purpose. I think it tells us what OG is going to do; it's going to review and investigate the abduction.

Now, tell me what you think it's purpose might be.

* Jumps up and down waving hands in the air shouting I know I know...*

So as per thread question "the McCanns being interviewed"  SY said they were going over ALL the  paper work regarding the case,  which they had available to them, to see if anything was missed, or if the investigation by the PJ was botched in some way. We understand they were only looking at the abduction from the apartment scenario- given by the parents/family and friends. Which, in my opinion is a disgrace.

 On the other hand, if they were given information, or found out something in the course of the 'investigation' which incriminated the parents, and or friends, then I doubt very much if they would tell the parents they were investigating their involvement as an alternative scenario  to the 'stranger abduction' from the apartment via a jemmied shutter and open window. by gum.

The interview?  would this be under caution like a real proper one, or just a  nod to the fact - erm did you ,erm ,like you know, um answer all the timeline questions, you know err , well , its like, I mean,  um did you, because was it like th truth you were telling? pretty please answer...

[Mr Gray]

It's fairly easy, .I'm surprised you can't follow a simple conversation,

I'm surprised you don't realise it's ambiguous

[G-Unit]

* Jumps up and down waving hands in the air shouting I know I know...*

So as per thread question "the McCanns being interviewed"  SY said they were going over ALL the  paper work regarding the case,  which they had available to them, to see if anything was missed, or if the investigation by the PJ was botched in some way. We understand they were only looking at the abduction from the apartment scenario- given by the parents/family and friends. Which, in my opinion is a disgrace.

 On the other hand, if they were given information, or found out something in the course of the 'investigation' which incriminated the parents, and or friends, then I doubt very much if they would tell the parents they were investigating their involvement as an alternative scenario  to the 'stranger abduction' from the apartment via a jemmied shutter and open window. by gum.

The interview?  would this be under caution like a real proper one, or just a  nod to the fact - erm did you ,erm ,like you know, um answer all the timeline questions, you know err , well , its like, I mean,  um did you, because was it like th truth you were telling? pretty please answer...

'Interviewed' in this context is such a vague term it's meaningless really. It covers a whole range of possibilities from an informal chat to an interview under caution. That's why the remit is of interest. If it's telling us that OG were only interested in an abduction then any interviews were likely to have been been related to that subject.

If evidence emerged which led OG outside the limits of their remit I assume they would have to present that to their superiors and seek permission to operate outside the remit or to have it changed.

[Miss Taken Identity]

'Interviewed' in this context is such a vague term it's meaningless really. It covers a whole range of possibilities from an informal chat to an interview under caution. That's why the remit is of interest. If it's telling us that OG were only interested in an abduction then any interviews were likely to have been been related to that subject.

If evidence emerged which led OG outside the limits of their remit I assume they would have to present that to their superiors and seek permission to operate outside the remit or to have it changed.

Yes G I agree. And we haven't been told if the remit has been changed NOR I suspect we would. We would also find out if any tapas 9 were interviewed under caution.

[Mr Gray]

'Interviewed' in this context is such a vague term it's meaningless really. It covers a whole range of possibilities from an informal chat to an interview under caution. That's why the remit is of interest. If it's telling us that OG were only interested in an abduction then any interviews were likely to have been been related to that subject.

If evidence emerged which led OG outside the limits of their remit I assume they would have to present that to their superiors and seek permission to operate outside the remit or to have it changed.

I dont believe SY are limited to the remit...that would be absurd...if evidence points anywhere they will follow it...they have alraedy said maddie may have died in the apartment which shows they are considering other scenarios

[ChloeR]

Not sure if they will have been interviewed in the sense of...grilled..as the last people to see the missing child should be.

I expect they have been spoken to about stuff.

I do not hold the view of some that they have ever been interviewed and ruled out as suspects or anything...as I don't believe SY have ever looked at them from that angle. Abduction seems to be just accepted without question in regards to this case, which is bizarre.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Not sure if they will have been interviewed in the sense of...grilled..as the last people to see the missing child should be.

I expect they have been spoken to about stuff.

I do not hold the view of some that they have ever been interviewed and ruled out as suspects or anything...as I don't believe SY have ever looked at them from that angle. Abduction seems to be just accepted without question in regards to this case, which is bizarre.

Yes  C  that seems to be the case  however, I am sure they are not all 'yes men', if something wasn't right I'm sure people would  stand up and be counted, like those who contributed to Amarals fund, and the people who felt money was being used unwisely. It will come out that money was indeed wasted.

[G-Unit]

I dont believe SY are limited to the remit...that would be absurd...if evidence points anywhere they will follow it...they have alraedy said maddie may have died in the apartment which shows they are considering other scenarios

I believe OG are limited to the remit. If not, why have one?

[G-Unit]

Yes  C  that seems to be the case  however, I am sure they are not all 'yes men', if something wasn't right I'm sure people would  stand up and be counted, like those who contributed to Amarals fund, and the people who felt money was being used unwisely. It will come out that money was indeed wasted.

I've noticed that people are coming out of the woodwork about Hillsborough. Too little too late.

[Mr Gray]

I believe OG are limited to the remit. If not, why have one?

you tell me...how important is the remit...is it something that can be torn up......officers simply could not ignore the evidence if it pointed elsewhere

[mercury]

REMIT


the task or area of activity officially assigned to an individual or organization.
"the committee was becoming caught up in issues that did not fall within its remit"
synonyms:   area of responsibility, area of activity, sphere, orbit, scope, ambit, province, territory, realm, department, turf; brief, instructions, orders; informalbailiwick
"his remit includes administering the consumer credit licensing system"


Pretty much ambiguous/flexible here, ergo just a piece of paper preciing general and any activities?

[Mr Gray]

REMIT


the task or area of activity officially assigned to an individual or organization.
"the committee was becoming caught up in issues that did not fall within its remit"
synonyms:   area of responsibility, area of activity, sphere, orbit, scope, ambit, province, territory, realm, department, turf; brief, instructions, orders; informalbailiwick
"his remit includes administering the consumer credit licensing system"


Pretty much ambiguous/flexible here, ergo just a piece of paper preciing general and any activities?

very flexible ...a piece of paper that could be torn up and thrown in the bin if the situation changed...thank you

[Miss Taken Identity]

I've noticed that people are coming out of the woodwork about Hillsborough. Too little too late.

Indeed G one of the most vile cases of police coverups. 'the slaughter of the innocents'. A lot of police work which was questionable is now being brought to the forefront. Thank goodness. Public servants are now being challenged by the many online campaigning groups, which put the newspapers to shame.

[mercury]

very flexible ...a piece of paper that could be torn up and thrown in the bin if the situation changed...thank you

Yes, I agree the remit is unclear and ambiguous which begs the question why it was issued..oh hang on, to cover all angles, including a non abduction, which is evidence that abduction is NOT believed by the superiors in the Met

[G-Unit]

you tell me...how important is the remit...is it something that can be torn up......officers simply could not ignore the evidence if it pointed elsewhere

First of all, officers are not free to dash off in any direction they wish. There's a hierarchy. Within that are fairly senior officers who assess the evidence and decide what to do next.

If they want to investigate something which exceeds their remit they are not going to do that without the agreement and express permission of those higher up the food chain. After all, if they're wrong, someone is going to carry the can.

If permission is not granted that's the end of it, unless they're brave enough to desert their careers and turn whistle-blower. They would need to be very sure they're right to do that, and until they investigate whatever it is they can't be sure. Mostly they accept the decision of those above them and get on with their jobs, I imagine.