According to Dr Peter Vanezis's report in 1986 regarding the wounds......
1,2,3,4, - In my view it is extremely unlikely that the victim could have received any of the 4 wounds upstairs and make his way down to the kitchen under his own steam.
5,6.The blood loss that would be expected from such wounds ( i.e..5 & 6) would be substantial both internally and externally and would depend on how long the victim survived. Suffice it to say that the regions injured have a rich blood supply.
Regarding wound No. 7, in my view after the infliction of this wound the victim’s ability to use his left arm would be totally impaired. This wound is likely to have happened upstairs in main bedroom or landing
Regarding wound No.8, the difficulty is finding bullet fragments could be due to the fact that some of these may have been in clothing and were seen radiologically, but not at the post mortem, secondly small fragments can be extremely difficult to detect even under ideal conditions. This wound is likely to have happened upstairs.
Regarding the carpet samples taken Dr P.Vanzis states...
57. Five carpet samples taken from the main bedroom were examined and found to bear numerous spots of dripped blood. These were tested and found to match the blood groupings of June Bamber. Wallpaper from the hallway to the left-hand side of the kitchen door was found, on examination, to be stained with human blood consistent with the blood grouping shared by Nevill Bamber and the twin boys. Since the boys seem to have been shot in their beds, it is a clear inference that this was Mr. Bamber's blood.
From these statements...not mine... I can't believe that if NB was shot at least 4 times in the main bedroom that there wouldn't have been excessive blood from him found there. Twice I can agree, these being 7th and 8th wounds. The quilt cover that was found on the floor near the door and June B was opened up before police searched for casings....in photo you can still see a casing on the floor by quilt.
You say you are following Vanezis but Vanezis believed that the first 4 wounds Nevill suffered were wounds 5-8 and that these were delivered upstairs while wounds 1-4 were delivered in the kitchen after Nevill had already had stopped struggling.
What you just quoted failed to refute the points I made. What you just quoted makes clear Nevill was shot before he entered the kitchen because his blood was against the hall wall and it got there from him bumping into the wall before he entered the kitchen. You fail to address the bullet that grazed Nevill being in the bedroom and the location of the casings in the bedroom as well. Vanezis didn't suggest that either of these wounds would result in extensive external bleeding. Thus you fail to post any argument of any kind to justify viewing them as not having occurred in the bedroom.
You completely ignored my point that they failed to test most of the blood in the bedroom. Vanezis simply reiterated that the limited blood they did test belonged to June. By your standard Sheila can't have been killed in the bedroom because none of the blood they tested was hers. Obviously this is not a valid standard.
A majority of blood from a lip and jaw wound would actually be internal not external. That which would be external wound not need to land on the floor. The majority of blood that drips from a face lands on clothing. No where did Vanezis suggest Nevill would have to have dripped extensive amounts of blood on the floor.
Did the hall Nevill walked through while bleeding have any blood on the floor noted let alone a lot of blood? Did the kitchen have a lot of blood anywhere other than what pooled after Nevill died? No. Could Nevill have been shot on the left side after he was knocked out? No because his right side was exposed not his left.
Nevill was shot 4 times in the bedroom and June shot 6 and then the gun was empty. The gun being empty without Nevill being disabled is the only reason the struggle in the kitchen took place. This is the view that was advanced at trial and to this day is the only scenario that accounts for the struggle in the kitchen, location of the spent cases and bullets as well as trajectory of the wounds.
While Nevill didn't have to bleed in the bedroom he probably did. They did not test all or even most of the blood that was on the bedroom carpet. They only cut out 2 squares from the carpet and tested 5 drops in each square. They failed to seize all blood that had been on the carpet thus could not test it all.
Nevill's side of the quilt has what looks like blood on it. while some people suggest it is just the pattern of the comforter, it looks a lot more red than the background pattern and doesn't seem to match the background pattern it looks like the blood that was observed on June's side of the comforter.
This comforter was not collected as evidence by police it was left behind and when police agreed to clean the place up of anything with blood they burned it along with other blood stained items. Thus the lab was unable to test whose blood was on it:
