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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2016, 03:03:43 PM »
So who was the tall thin man? Russell O'Brien says;

thus they opted to have dinner, after that day, in the Tapas Restaurant. That restaurant is situated next to the pool, in the patio areas of the block of apartments where they found themselves lodged. The deponent furthers that the daughters of David and Fiona Payne are very agitated, and that they preferred to be the closest possible to the apartment. All the couples agreed, without objections.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN.htm

We were booked into the Tapas bar, we ate there that night initially it was booked as a one off I think by Rachael as far as I am aware the table was booked for 20:30hours.  I am aware that Rachael asked to eat there each night for the remainder of our stay this I believe was booked on the Monday morning as a block booking- the time was agreed by the group.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

As a matter of interest he confirms that other alcohol such as beer may have been drunk in addition to the free wine;

 if anything else was ordered there may have been a need to have made an additional payment.  I recall that orders may have been put onto a bar bill and paid at the end of the week.....
Generally of an evening we would drink beer or have a few glasses of wine

So he doesn't remember booking the Tapas restaurant. How about Matthew;

Prompted about the dinner reservations/bookings at Tapas, he relates that the first time thay made a reservation was on Sunday, not knowing who had made it. Asked if it could have been ROB the deponent admitted that that was possible, reiterating to not know for sure who had made it.

relating to the other days, he clarifies that on Monday morning his wife undertook such reservation, adding still that it would have been for all the remaining days except for Friday, 4 May, as there was to have been a Tennis Club dinner that night.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

So the tall men both deny making a reservation at the Tapas restaurant. Both say Rachael made a one off booking on the Sunday and a block booking for Monday-Thursday on Monday.

According to Kate's book she was horrified to find a note in the files about their home made listening service. She missed what Matthew had to say about MW being informed of their plans when the booking was made;

As far as he [MO] is concerned, he wishes at this time to add that, in conversation with DP on a date he does not recall with certainty but likely to have been on 7 or 8 May, he [DP] confided in him that that, at that time, KH had been particularly reluctant about coming to Portugal because she had had a bad feeling [presentiment] about the children of the group and the non-existence of the 'baby sitting' service.

Nevertheless, he relates that, they had discussed this problem resolving to make the trip since the operator had assured them accommodation sufficiently close together that, collectively, they had managed to assure the checking and supervision of their respective progeny.

Consequently, David had taken charge of negotiations with the operator to have all lodgings as close to each other as possible. Nonetheless, and because he was asked, he adds that on leaving England they did not know the exact apartments which they had been allotted.

Nevertheless, he relates that DP had asked the operator that they be provided with lodgings in close proximity to each other because, as a group, they intended to perform that kind of checking collectively over the children of each family.




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Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2016, 08:37:26 PM »
Several people were unable to eat at Tapas, because of the special treatment negotiated by someone in the T9. At least two of the T9 disagreed with this block booking of the whole week and thought, correctly, that it was unfair.

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2016, 08:46:30 PM »

Who is Elsie?
S Hubbard's letter and KM's SMS were both to L Coutinho, no-one elsie Jassi.
They and Arthur B C were fairly amateur because they mistakenly delivered them to the door/mobile of J Coutinho.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/mccanns-pressure-and-harass-ocean-club.html
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 08:54:01 PM by pegasus »

Offline jassi

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2016, 08:53:31 PM »
S Hubbard's letter and KM's SMS were both to L Coutinho, no-one elsie Jassi.
They and Arthur B C were fairly amateur because they mistakenly delivered them to the door/mobile of J Coutinho.

Never mind  ?{)(**
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline mercury

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2016, 10:48:16 PM »
So who was the tall thin man? Russell O'Brien says;

thus they opted to have dinner, after that day, in the Tapas Restaurant. That restaurant is situated next to the pool, in the patio areas of the block of apartments where they found themselves lodged. The deponent furthers that the daughters of David and Fiona Payne are very agitated, and that they preferred to be the closest possible to the apartment. All the couples agreed, without objections.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN.htm

We were booked into the Tapas bar, we ate there that night initially it was booked as a one off I think by Rachael as far as I am aware the table was booked for 20:30hours.  I am aware that Rachael asked to eat there each night for the remainder of our stay this I believe was booked on the Monday morning as a block booking- the time was agreed by the group.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

As a matter of interest he confirms that other alcohol such as beer may have been drunk in addition to the free wine;

 if anything else was ordered there may have been a need to have made an additional payment.  I recall that orders may have been put onto a bar bill and paid at the end of the week.....
Generally of an evening we would drink beer or have a few glasses of wine

So he doesn't remember booking the Tapas restaurant. How about Matthew;

Prompted about the dinner reservations/bookings at Tapas, he relates that the first time thay made a reservation was on Sunday, not knowing who had made it. Asked if it could have been ROB the deponent admitted that that was possible, reiterating to not know for sure who had made it.

relating to the other days, he clarifies that on Monday morning his wife undertook such reservation, adding still that it would have been for all the remaining days except for Friday, 4 May, as there was to have been a Tennis Club dinner that night.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

So the tall men both deny making a reservation at the Tapas restaurant. Both say Rachael made a one off booking on the Sunday and a block booking for Monday-Thursday on Monday.

According to Kate's book she was horrified to find a note in the files about their home made listening service. She missed what Matthew had to say about MW being informed of their plans when the booking was made;

As far as he [MO] is concerned, he wishes at this time to add that, in conversation with .... ...... on a date he does not recall with certainty but likely to have been on 7 or 8 May, he [.... ......] confided in him that that, at that time, KH had been particularly reluctant about coming to Portugal because she had had a bad feeling [presentiment] about the children of the group and the non-existence of the 'baby sitting' service.

Nevertheless, he relates that, they had discussed this problem resolving to make the trip since the operator had assured them accommodation sufficiently close together that, collectively, they had managed to assure the checking and supervision of their respective progeny.

Consequently, David had taken charge of negotiations with the operator to have all lodgings as close to each other as possible. Nonetheless, and because he was asked, he adds that on leaving England they did not know the exact apartments which they had been allotted.

Nevertheless, he relates that .... ...... had asked the operator that they be provided with lodgings in close proximity to each other because, as a group, they intended to perform that kind of checking collectively over the children of each family.


Very interesting GU, its never straightforward, yes, who WAS the tall thin man? And why had all their memories seemngly gone to pot, no stock answers anyone pls.

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2016, 11:06:18 PM »
Never mind  ?{)(**
Sorry Jassi, I get it now.
BTW three people who by Thursday daytime disagreed with selfishly hogging the restaurant all week are JT ROB and KM - it's in the files
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 11:18:29 PM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2016, 11:14:46 PM »
It must have been really annoying for some of the other guests who were turned away from Tapas.
They queued up at 9am in the morning to book a table for that evening, only to be told they couldn't have a table, because some self-important group had block-booked half the restaurant every evening.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 11:30:07 PM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2016, 11:25:45 PM »
JT disagreed with the group's restaurant-hogging:
"definitely from my point of view I felt quite bad that we were taking this block booking every night and it was affecting other people using it”

Offline mercury

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2016, 11:33:35 PM »
It must have been really annoying for some of the other guests who were turned away from Tapas.
They queued up at 9am in the morning to book a table for that evening, only to be told they couldn't have a table, because some self-important group had block-booked half the restaurant every evening.

So why did they get it then?

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2016, 12:43:41 AM »
So why did they get it then?
Basically because one or two people in the group were very shellfish Merc.
Not all of them - JT and KM both very reasonably wanted to go elsewhere on Thu night and give other guests a turn.

Offline mercury

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2016, 12:48:30 AM »
Basically because one or two people in the group were very shellfish Merc.
Not all of them - JT and KM both very reasonably wanted to go elsewhere on Thu night and give other guests a turn.

Why were they allowed to get in? I meant
I know how arrogantt and selfish some of that bloody group was

Offline pegasus

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2016, 02:17:51 AM »
Why were they allowed to get in?(snip)
Because one person insisted Merc
"upon the insistence of the guest" says the lady who was persuaded to allow the block-booking.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2016, 07:14:59 PM »
...And so BEFORE they left for the resort, and not checking police files for child stealing burglars and paedophile gangs,9 you know all the risk assessment thing) they ALL AGREED they would be dining without the children in the evening. Evidence being; the Paynes took a quality listening device, no one else did. Jane being convinced this is a cultural thing in the UK (maybe in chavland darling). I have never heard of such a thing in my life.

Let us look at what we know from this one thread
1. the parents were intending to leave their children alone, unprotected, unseen, unheard from where they were drinking and dining.
2. This throws away the claim  that' it felt safe'.

Whole new ball game.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2016, 07:33:49 PM »
...And so BEFORE they left for the resort, and not checking police files for child stealing burglars and paedophile gangs,9 you know all the risk assessment thing) they ALL AGREED they would be dining without the children in the evening. Evidence being; the Paynes took a quality listening device, no one else did. Jane being convinced this is a cultural thing in the UK (maybe in chavland darling). I have never heard of such a thing in my life.

Let us look at what we know from this one thread
1. the parents were intending to leave their children alone, unprotected, unseen, unheard from where they were drinking and dining.
2. This throws away the claim  that' it felt safe'.

Whole new ball game.

Throws up the question - How would they have behaved had they not been able to get a block booking every night?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The Tapas Bookings
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2016, 07:43:32 PM »
Throws up the question - How would they have behaved had they not been able to get a block booking every night?

Oh JASSI, *shudders* perish the thought.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin