The Tapas Bookings

[Alice Purjorick]

Yet she doesn't say abduction.

Now Brietta, how much does she know about the case ?

Any ideas ?

According to headlines and reports Ms Osbourne is spouting from a position of ignorance.
Is that global or selective one has to ask. If she [Ms O.] says "taken" and it is read by supporters as "abducted" to further their argument then as Ms Osbourne is spouting from a position of ignorance then the comment in itself is worthless in the argument.
One must conclude there is the usual selectivity being applied in this case. Ah well the rest of what she said was blx but the taken =abducted is right.
It's almost as much fun as discussing midgets with Texans. They are never sure whether their midgets are the biggest or the smallest........................

[Miss Taken Identity]

Is the gang having a reccy inside the Tapas Bar the same as the gang which had a reccy by standing on corners watching or the gang that had a reccy knocking on doors or a composite of all three?

Were there actually any tourists in Luz that week?

Yeah, they must have looked right out of place with all them  child stealing burglurs, blood seeking ancestors, paedophile gangs, demented  childless couples looking to bag a child of ther own from unsuspecting tourists.

Alice quote
"According to headlines and reports Ms Osbourne is spouting from a position of ignorance.
Is that global or selective one has to ask. If she [Ms O.] says "taken" and it is read by supporters as "abducted" to further their argument then as Ms Osbourne is spouting from a position of ignorance then the comment in itself is worthless in the argument."

Yes, spin it ! spin it!  The McCanns are doing well with their 'tinternet people' looking out for their well being and protecting their reputation.. which according to some areas seems not to be what they want it to be ah well never mind. 

[Brietta]

Is the gang having a reccy inside the Tapas Bar the same as the gang which had a reccy by standing on corners watching or the gang that had a reccy knocking on doors or a composite of all three?

Were there actually any tourists in Luz that week?

If I were getting paid enough for a job, I would be sure of covering all the bases. 

One of the bases among others was the tapas bar ... if not, why do we have a whole thread devoted to it? 

I would have assumed that would have been an elementary starting point in any investigation. 
However since no-one seemed too bothered about picking up the cigarette ends left at a vantage point overlooking 5A which may or may not have contained relevant DNA ~ why would anyone bother to check if there might have been some sort of surveillance from the tapas?

I believe there were tourists in Luz that week ... one of whom vanished ... and it is police attitudes mirrored by posts like yours which may have allowed the perpetrator nine years of grace to cover tracks.

[G-Unit]

I wonder if someone else who managed to squeeze into the tapas restaurant despite a whole table being commandeered by a party of nine (WOW ... how the mind boggles at the selfishness of that!!) might have been taking a close note of the comings and goings from that table.

I would have been much more interested in fleshing out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners ~ I think the police have sorted out the tapas nine and their comings and goings long since.
Who knows who else was dining ... and who may have been watching and taking note.

Even the Amaral investigation had checked it out and could pin nothing on them despite infamous "inconsistencies".

This thread is about the Tapas bookings and some quite interesting facts have emerged. It seems the decision to create their own 'listening service' was probably taken at the time of booking the holiday before they had seen the resort, let alone before they had seen how 'quiet' and 'safe' it seemed. 

It also seems there's a difference of opinion between the receptionist and the group as to who made the block booking. Does it matter? Only to the group, for some reason. They forgot all sorts of details but they all remembered it was Rachael who made the block booking. They weren't sure when or how, but they remembered who.

May I suggest you begin a thread to 'flesh out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners' if you would find that 'much more interesting'? It might be an idea not to cast aspersions on other Mark Warner guests without any evidence, however.

[Miss Taken Identity]

If I were getting paid enough for a job, I would be sure of covering all the bases. 

One of the bases among others was the tapas bar ... if not, why do we have a whole thread devoted to it? 

I would have assumed that would have been an elementary starting point in any investigation. 
However since no-one seemed too bothered about picking up the cigarette ends left at a vantage point overlooking 5A which may or may not have contained relevant DNA ~ why would anyone bother to check if there might have been some sort of surveillance from the tapas?

I believe there were tourists in Luz that week ... one of whom vanished ... and it is police attitudes mirrored by posts like yours which may have allowed the perpetrator nine years of grace to cover tracks.

mm Yes, we know it was the police and Alice's fault that Maddie hasn't been found, nothing to do with the parents who couldn't see or hear their children or the windows and doors ( one which was left unlocked) they were left behind in, you would think though, that with all the coming and going with the vigorous checking being claimed, that the parents would have noticed something ... but then Gerry and Jez didn't see Jane Tanner or the abductor walking off with Maddie...Tsk  is there anyone else we can blame here?

[Brietta]

mm Yes, we know it was the police and Alice's fault that Maddie hasn't been found, nothing to do with the parents who couldn't see or hear their children or the windows and doors ( one which was left unlocked) they were left behind in, you would think though, that with all the coming and going with the vigorous checking being claimed, that the parents would have noticed something ... but then Gerry and Jez didn't see Jane Tanner or the abductor walking off with Maddie...Tsk  is there anyone else we can blame here?

The person or persons responsible for "taking" Madeleine ... ie the abductor/s?

[Miss Taken Identity]

The person or persons responsible for "taking" Madeleine ... ie the abductor/s?

No evidence of stranger abduction.

[Alice Purjorick]

If I were getting paid enough for a job, I would be sure of covering all the bases. 

One of the bases among others was the tapas bar ... if not, why do we have a whole thread devoted to it?

I would have assumed that would have been an elementary starting point in any investigation. 
However since no-one seemed too bothered about picking up the cigarette ends left at a vantage point overlooking 5A which may or may not have contained relevant DNA ~ why would anyone bother to check if there might have been some sort of surveillance from the tapas?

I believe there were tourists in Luz that week ... one of whom vanished ... and it is police attitudes mirrored by posts like yours which may have allowed the perpetrator nine years of grace to cover tracks.

1. Good question. This is an internet forum chatting about things that interest the punters which may be poles apart from what the cops found relevant to the investigation. Whatever you may think of the PJ they are the police force with primacy.
2. You really are very funny. As if my posts have any influence on "the abductor" should he/she/they exist.

[Miss Taken Identity]

This thread is about the Tapas bookings and some quite interesting facts have emerged. It seems the decision to create their own 'listening service' was probably taken at the time of booking the holiday before they had seen the resort, let alone before they had seen how 'quiet' and 'safe' it seemed. 

It also seems there's a difference of opinion between the receptionist and the group as to who made the block booking. Does it matter? Only to the group, for some reason. They forgot all sorts of details but they all remembered it was Rachael who made the block booking. They weren't sure when or how, but they remembered who.

May I suggest you begin a thread to 'flesh out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners' if you would find that 'much more interesting'? It might be an idea not to cast aspersions on other Mark Warner guests without any evidence, however.

You seeking special treatment here? what makes them so different lol WE are all in it together dontcha know.

Alas poor jorvik is being accused of preventing Maddie being found. Shame on you I say! Could you stop posting just to see if that does make a difference to the SY and PJ  'search' thankies. I am a stickler for evidence.

[Brietta]

This thread is about the Tapas bookings and some quite interesting facts have emerged. It seems the decision to create their own 'listening service' was probably taken at the time of booking the holiday before they had seen the resort, let alone before they had seen how 'quiet' and 'safe' it seemed. 

It also seems there's a difference of opinion between the receptionist and the group as to who made the block booking. Does it matter? Only to the group, for some reason. They forgot all sorts of details but they all remembered it was Rachael who made the block booking. They weren't sure when or how, but they remembered who.

May I suggest you begin a thread to 'flesh out the information in the files regarding the booking forms and other diners' if you would find that 'much more interesting'? It might be an idea not to cast aspersions on other Mark Warner guests without any evidence, however.

Your thread concerns the tapas bookings ... but apparently only in relation to a table of nine diners.  Evidently a myopia which enables you to cancel out the other tables of diners, people visiting the toilet, people waiting for a carry out meal etc ~ into a total irrelevance.

The nine sitting at that table have been thoroughly investigated resulting in no suggestion they had a hand in Madeleine's disappearance.
One can only wonder at the resistance to the idea an abductor (they do eat, I suppose) might have been sitting in that restaurant watching and taking note of the movements of the nine.

Might I respectfully point out all nine named persons at that table have aspersions cast at them every minute of every day ... "inconsistency" is one word ... but there are many more.
Surprised you haven't noticed and raised an eyebrow at that.

[Miss Taken Identity]

 &%+((£

Eyebrow raised. The Tapas 9 borught these 'questions about their story of abduction upon themselves'. Amaral, Mark Warner company and staff, local residents, did nothing to encourage the decision for the tapas 9 to leave their children unattended night after night. The Tapas group made the decision before they left for a holiday, hence why The Payne's took a baby listening monitor with them.

They were the last know people to have seen Maddie alive, they will, and should remain, a link to what happened.

[Brietta]

&%+((£

Eyebrow raised. The Tapas 9 borught these 'questions about their story of abduction upon themselves'. Amaral, Mark Warner company and staff, local residents, did nothing to encourage the decision for the tapas 9 to leave their children unattended night after night. The Tapas group made the decision before they left for a holiday, hence why The Payne's took a baby listening monitor with them.

They were the last know people to have seen Maddie alive, they will, and should remain, a link to what happened.

These nine people have been thoroughly investigated regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance and there is not one shred of evidence against any one of them.

If not one of the nine had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance it stands to reason someone did.  Whether as part of a conspiracy to kidnap or as an opportunistic crime, whether carried out by a lone predator or with accomplices ~ a stranger took Madeleine McCann.

I find it extraordinary there is no condemnation of the criminal or criminals who committed the crime.

[Alice Purjorick]

These nine people have been thoroughly investigated regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance and there is not one shred of evidence against any one of them.

If not one of the nine had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance it stands to reason someone did.  Whether as part of a conspiracy to kidnap or as an opportunistic crime, whether carried out by a lone predator or with accomplices ~ a stranger took Madeleine McCann.

I find it extraordinary there is no condemnation of the criminal or criminals who committed the crime.

Oh I wholeheartedly condemn what happened to Madeleine McCann during her holiday. When we know for sure precisely the extent of what that was one hopes a successful prosecution will be brought finding someone guilty in a court of law then one hopes the full force of the law will be applied. That will be Portuguese law of course culminating in a term in a Portuguese gaol if justice is to be seen to be served.

[Miss Taken Identity]

This was swiped??? The behaviour of some is getting desperate.

These nine people have been thoroughly investigated regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance and there is not one shred of evidence against any one of them.

If not one of the nine had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance it stands to reason someone did.  Whether as part of a conspiracy to kidnap or as an opportunistic crime, whether carried out by a lone predator or with accomplices ~ a stranger took Madeleine McCann.

I find it extraordinary there is no condemnation of the criminal or criminals who committed the crime.

There is no evidence  as yet. as there is no evidence of an abduction as there is no evidence a stranger or strangers did something. NO evidence so by your reckoning as there is no evidence of anything, including the Tapas, nothing has happened and this is just Alice in Wonderland stuff?

" QuoteI find it extraordinary there is no condemnation of the criminal or criminals who committed the crime."

Oh it's all a bit early for that discussion- we have established, have you not, there is no evidence of Tapas involvement  or strangers being involved or evidence of Maddie being dead or alive. So  as and when the criminal/s are caught-charged- found guilty I will be there with the baying crowd demanding they get punished appropriately!

[Brietta]

This was swiped??? The behaviour of some is getting desperate.


There is no evidence  as yet. as there is no evidence of an abduction as there is no evidence a stranger or strangers did something. NO evidence so by your reckoning as there is no evidence of anything, including the Tapas, nothing has happened and this is just Alice in Wonderland stuff?

" QuoteI find it extraordinary there is no condemnation of the criminal or criminals who committed the crime."

Oh it's all a bit early for that discussion- we have established, have you not, there is no evidence of Tapas involvement  or strangers being involved or evidence of Maddie being dead or alive. So  as and when the criminal/s are caught-charged- found guilty I will be there with the baying crowd demanding they get punished appropriately!

If and when alleged perpetrators of the crime against Madeleine McCann are apprehended and there is sufficient evidence to bring them to trial ... I will be happy to allow the law to take its course and hope the resolution of Madeleine's case will be a propitious one which she will be there to enjoy.

The last thing I would contemplate would be participating as part of a baying crowd.  There has been way too much of that behaviour over the past nine years.

• Evidence of absence is evidence therefore the fact that Madeleine is not at home with her family is evidence
• There is eye witness evidence of strangers

Shining has written a succinct account of why the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance may have got off on the back foot ...  https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/madeleine-smithman-challenge-1/

The pity is that it never picked up from there.

However, if as this thread might suggest the tapas bookings were pivotal to the investigation ... why was the blanket coverage approach abandoned in favour of concentration on the most investigated individuals in Luz (Robert Murat and his associates apart) to the exclusion of investigating those who might have been of interest or not among the other people using the restaurant that week.