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Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2016, 10:09:24 PM »
Who are these 'others'?

one of amarals lawyers and the current pj team

Offline Brietta

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2016, 10:53:40 PM »
"'Dead body scent' cannot be removed by cleaning. The compounds adhere to surfaces. The scent can be 'masked' by bleach and other strong smelling odours but the dog's olfactory system is able to separate odour and identify
specific compounds' and mixes to cellular level. A similar system would be a device similar to an electron microscope." MG

I think you misunderstand the situation regarding 'stand alone evidence' status of a VRD alert.  In the recent case in the Scottish courts where intelligence from dog alerts was allowed to be heard by the jury ... it was not allowed in isolation.  The prosecution had enough evidence to take the case into court, of which the dog alert was one small component.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2016, 11:08:19 PM »
I think you misunderstand the situation regarding 'stand alone evidence' status of a VRD alert.  In the recent case in the Scottish courts where intelligence from dog alerts was allowed to be heard by the jury ... it was not allowed in isolation.  The prosecution had enough evidence to take the case into court, of which the dog alert was one small component.

I'm not misunderstanding anything. This was always going to be a circumstantial evidence case.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2016, 11:28:07 PM »
I'm not misunderstanding anything. This was always going to be a circumstantial evidence case.

If the Portuguese investigations uncovered evidence circumstantial or otherwise ... not a shred of it pointed to any involvement of Madeleine's parents in her disappearance.

Misinterpretation of the significance of the dog alerts and undue haste in getting the case wrapped was disastrous for the proper investigation of Madeleine's case.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Admin

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2016, 11:34:48 PM »
The investigators looked into this situation most carefully and researched the history of apartment 5a.  There was no record of anyone having died in the apartment or of a body being waked there.

Taken at their highest, the alerts are both puzzling and suspicious.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2016, 09:19:56 AM by Angelo222 »

stephen25000

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Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2016, 07:12:08 AM »
The investigators looked into this situation most carefully and researched the history of apartment 5a.  There was no record of anyone having died in the apartment or of a body being waked there.

Taken at their highest, the alerts are both puzzling and suspicious.

..and only with possessions belonging to the mccanns.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2016, 07:21:26 AM »
The investigators looked into this situation most carefully and researched the history of apartment 5a.  There was no record of anyone having died in the apartment or of a body being waked there.

Taken at their highest, the alerts are both puzzling and suspicious.

This is thee whole point. SY...the PJ and one of amarals lawyers have said maddie may still be alive...in that instance...what did the cadaver dog alert to

Offline slartibartfast

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2016, 07:25:18 AM »
This is thee whole point. SY...the PJ and one of amarals lawyers have said maddie may still be alive...in that instance...what did the cadaver dog alert to

You would have thought that with a huge fund to draw on, the McCanns would have found out.
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stephen25000

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Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2016, 07:27:35 AM »
You would have thought that with a huge fund to draw on, the McCanns would have found out.

Absolutely.

Yet no trace of her at all.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2016, 07:46:14 AM »
so still no explanation...but there has to be an explanation...and the first conclusion has to be the alerts were not to maddie...it is therefore possible that none of the cadaver alerts were to maddie

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2016, 07:47:47 AM »
I have been giving explanations for this for several years...what is interesting is that no sceptic has supplied an explanation...there has to be one
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2016, 07:48:06 AM »
one of amarals lawyers and the current pj team

Do you have cites for that assertion?
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stephen25000

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Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 07:48:34 AM »
so still no explanation...but there has to be an explanation...and the first conclusion has to be the alerts were not to maddie...it is therefore possible that none of the cadaver alerts were to maddie

It is an established fact, there had been no other bodies in the apartment.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2016, 07:49:26 AM »
Do you have cites for that assertion?

Do you remember amarals lawyer asking for the trial to be held in camera to protect maddie in case she was still alive

Offline slartibartfast

Re: If Maddie may still be alive...what did the dog's alert to.
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 07:52:25 AM »
I have been giving explanations for this for several years...what is interesting is that no sceptic has supplied an explanation...there has to be one

Seems a bit of a pointless thread if you already have the answers.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2016, 09:29:23 AM by Angelo222 »
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