Author Topic: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?  (Read 55713 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #195 on: June 10, 2016, 06:50:30 PM »
Some say abductions not possible but you've identified 7 suspects
Great work

I wasn't giving suspects dave.

I was extracting the Carbamide. 8(0(*

Offline Benice

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #196 on: June 10, 2016, 06:53:58 PM »
At the moment I think it might be libelous to accuse Amaral of libel. He can, at the moment, prove that he did no such thing under the laws of his country.

I'm not in his country - and under the laws of my country - the UK  - 'innuendo' can be considered to be defamatory.

Quote from Carter-Ruck

The onus is on the claimant to show the facts giving rise to the innuendo and that these facts are known to the readers.     For example, to say that a person eats meat is not defamatory on its face; if, however, some readers know that the person professes to be a committed vegetarian, the statement may be considered defamatory, suggesting he is hypocritical or dishonest.
 
 The words must be put in their full context, including headings and captions to any photographs.   For the purpose of deciding whether words are defamatory, the intention of the author is irrelevant.    All that matters is the impression which the words give to readers.
  End quote
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stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #197 on: June 10, 2016, 07:01:34 PM »
I'm not in his country - and under the laws of my country - the UK  - 'innuendo' can be considered to be defamatory.

Quote from Carter-Ruck

The onus is on the claimant to show the facts giving rise to the innuendo and that these facts are known to the readers.     For example, to say that a person eats meat is not defamatory on its face; if, however, some readers know that the person professes to be a committed vegetarian, the statement may be considered defamatory, suggesting he is hypocritical or dishonest.
 
 The words must be put in their full context, including headings and captions to any photographs.   For the purpose of deciding whether words are defamatory, the intention of the author is irrelevant.    All that matters is the impression which the words give to readers.
  End quote

and no relevance to Portuguese Law.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #198 on: June 10, 2016, 07:17:29 PM »
I'm not in his country - and under the laws of my country - the UK  - 'innuendo' can be considered to be defamatory.

Quote from Carter-Ruck

The onus is on the claimant to show the facts giving rise to the innuendo and that these facts are known to the readers.     For example, to say that a person eats meat is not defamatory on its face; if, however, some readers know that the person professes to be a committed vegetarian, the statement may be considered defamatory, suggesting he is hypocritical or dishonest.
 
 The words must be put in their full context, including headings and captions to any photographs.   For the purpose of deciding whether words are defamatory, the intention of the author is irrelevant.    All that matters is the impression which the words give to readers.
  End quote

Unless he publishes his book in the UK your opinion matters not a jot. Are you sure that quote is from Carter Ruck btw?
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Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #199 on: June 10, 2016, 07:20:38 PM »
Unless he publishes his book in the UK your opinion matters not a jot. Are you sure that quote is from Carter Ruck btw?
No one's opinion matters a jot.

Offline jassi

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #200 on: June 10, 2016, 07:56:55 PM »
No one's opinion matters a jot.

So true. Why does one bother, I wonder.
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Or maybe not -

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #201 on: June 10, 2016, 08:15:02 PM »
If Madeleine was found tomorrow and her abductor apprehended, Amaral would still not be guilty of libel according to the laws of his country it seems.  If someone else is found guilty of taking her then do the McCanns get to sue him all over again?

Is there enough money in the fund for that ?
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Offline mercury

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #202 on: June 10, 2016, 08:37:41 PM »
Is there enough money in the fund for that ?

It would be a total waste even if there was (again)
There would be no conceivable reason left in that hypothetical situation to resue even if they could


Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #203 on: June 10, 2016, 09:01:56 PM »
Is there enough money in the fund for that ?
if not, I'm sure there'd be quite a few willing to help out ;-)

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #204 on: June 10, 2016, 09:21:55 PM »
if not, I'm sure there'd be quite a few willing to help out ;-)

There don't appear to be many on here.
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Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #205 on: June 10, 2016, 09:27:13 PM »
There don't appear to be many on here.
what would you know about it?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #206 on: June 10, 2016, 09:29:04 PM »
what would you know about it?

From previous threads.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #207 on: June 10, 2016, 09:31:33 PM »
From previous threads.
you mean the goading one started by Faithlilly?  As if any supporter here is going to play along with her games.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #208 on: June 10, 2016, 09:32:15 PM »
There don't appear to be many on here.
can you work out how they have managed to raise millions with so little support

Offline mercury

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #209 on: June 10, 2016, 09:35:02 PM »
can you work out how they have managed to raise millions with so little support
Donations from the first year before their accouhts were laid bare by the papers
Libel threats
The book and
Sun serialisation of it

Thats the vast majority