Author Topic: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?  (Read 55675 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #315 on: June 14, 2016, 07:51:58 AM »
I was thinking there was another who used the phrase but I don't think Davel is calling her a troll.

do you support the use of such tweets

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #316 on: June 14, 2016, 08:04:11 AM »
do you support the use of such tweets

I certainly do. Because I believe in freedom of expression, & the right to an opinion, because I'm not a left wing Nazi.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #317 on: June 14, 2016, 08:22:38 AM »
I certainly do. Because I believe in freedom of expression, & the right to an opinion, because I'm not a left wing Nazi.

at least you have the guts to answer the question

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #318 on: June 14, 2016, 08:32:30 AM »
do you support the use of such tweets

I see little difference between:-

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Q “how long must the McCanns suffer” answer “for the rest of their miserable lives”.’

And

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He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #319 on: June 14, 2016, 08:39:13 AM »
I see little difference between:-

And

Indeed Slarti.

Some people can only think in one dimension. Hardly difficult to see why.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #320 on: June 14, 2016, 08:43:14 AM »
I see little difference between:-

And

Kate was in a desperate situation having lost her daughter....Brenda wasn't...that's the diference. Its revealing that you condone such attacks


stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #321 on: June 14, 2016, 08:47:02 AM »
Kate was in a desperate situation having lost her daughter....Brenda wasn't...that's the diference. Its revealing that you condone such attacks

Self induced, she and her husband are to blame for leaving their children unprotected.

No one else.

Alfie

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #322 on: June 14, 2016, 09:22:53 AM »
Kate was in a desperate situation having lost her daughter....Brenda wasn't...that's the diference. Its revealing that you condone such attacks
Correct.  Kate perceived that Amaral was obstructing the search for her missing child, and not only that but also trying to pin the blame on her.  What suffering had the McCanns ever caused to Brenda FGS?!  How would most normal people feel about some jumped-up cop accusing them of something they hadn't done and not making any serious attempt to look for their missing child?  Probably exactly the same as Kate.

stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #323 on: June 14, 2016, 09:42:56 AM »
Correct.  Kate perceived that Amaral was obstructing the search for her missing child, and not only that but also trying to pin the blame on her.  What suffering had the McCanns ever caused to Brenda FGS?!  How would most normal people feel about some jumped-up cop accusing them of something they hadn't done and not making any serious attempt to look for their missing child?  Probably exactly the same as Kate.

First Brenda is dead, and we know who handed the dossier to the Police and Sky News.

The 'jumped up cop' was doing his job, as were the rest of the PJ. Investigating the parents would have occurred in the UK.

All you reveal in your post, are feelings for the Mccanns and no one else.

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #324 on: June 14, 2016, 09:53:25 AM »
Kate was in a desperate situation having lost her daughter....Brenda wasn't...that's the diference. Its revealing that you condone such attacks

Interesting that you assume I condone either of the attacks?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #325 on: June 14, 2016, 10:16:07 AM »
Correct.  Kate perceived that Amaral was obstructing the search for her missing child, and not only that but also trying to pin the blame on her.  What suffering had the McCanns ever caused to Brenda FGS?!  How would most normal people feel about some jumped-up cop accusing them of something they hadn't done and not making any serious attempt to look for their missing child?  Probably exactly the same as Kate.

Enumerate the suffering the investigating officer had caused first hand.
Preferably by sticking to facts and not by passing off.
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stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #326 on: June 14, 2016, 10:30:06 AM »
Correct.  Kate perceived that Amaral was obstructing the search for her missing child, and not only that but also trying to pin the blame on her.  What suffering had the McCanns ever caused to Brenda FGS?!  How would most normal people feel about some jumped-up cop accusing them of something they hadn't done and not making any serious attempt to look for their missing child?  Probably exactly the same as Kate.

Also for once Alf,  stop typing the lie that Madeleine was not searched for.

SHE WAS, EXTENSIVELY.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #327 on: June 14, 2016, 11:06:35 AM »
I see three possibilities in this case.

1. McCanns innocent of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
2. McCann's involved in some way in their daughter's disappearance.
3. Nobody Knows for sure if it's 1 or 2.

I am a 3 leaning towards 2 but still accepting the possibility of 1.

Because of my stance arguments relying solely on 1 make no sense because 1 hasn't been proved.

Saying that Kate dislikes Amaral because she's innocent only makes sense if you are a 1.

Saying that Kate dislikes Amaral because she's guilty only makes sense if you are a 2.

As a 3, either is possible because neither 1 or 2 has been proved to be true in my opinion.



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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #328 on: June 14, 2016, 11:09:49 AM »
I see three possibilities in this case.

1. McCanns innocent of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
2. McCann's involved in some way in their daughter's disappearance.
3. Nobody Knows for sure if it's 1 or 2.

I am a 3 leaning towards 2 but still accepting the possibility of 1.

Because of my stance arguments relying solely on 1 make no sense because 1 hasn't been proved.

Saying that Kate dislikes Amaral because she's innocent only makes sense if you are a 1.

Saying that Kate dislikes Amaral because she's guilty only makes sense if you are a 2.

As a 3, either is possible because neither 1 or 2 has been proved to be true in my opinion.

what do you mean by proved...i would say on the balance of probabilities it has been proved
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stephen25000

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Re: Has support for the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral reached cult status?
« Reply #329 on: June 14, 2016, 11:19:53 AM »
I know the McCanns handed the dossier to the police because they said so.   When did they say they had handed the dossier to Sky News?   Cite please.

Amaral wasn't doing his job IMO.   Instead of looking at the evidence and coming to a conclusion like a professional policeman  would -  he came to a conclusion first and then spent his time trying to fit the evidence to suit that one conclusion - quite often by cherry picking the info he did have (the dogs)  - and by the inclusion of gossip (the fridge) - not to mention a dream - which apparently changed the whole course of the investigation.

Does that sound like a professional  policeman  'doing his job'?    I beg to differ.   I reckon SY would too.

AIMHO

p.s if you can provide the evidence that the McCanns passed the dossier to Sky News - then fair enough.  If you can't then I suggest you stop making that claim.

(must go out now)

The dossier compilers handed it to the Police. The compilers were therefore in contact with the McCann's.  No dossier compiler has come forward to say they passed it to Sky News, and it therefore it went to Sky wit the McCanns complicity.

Amaral,  along with the PJ did their job.

Just remember the UK police told the PJ to investigate the Mccanns, before the 'instructions' changed, to protect the Mccanns.

As to SY, if they were doing a professional job as you call it, they would be investigating all logical scenarios.
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