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stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2016, 09:56:35 AM »
I've no complaint with Rebelo (neither so far as I am aware, the McCanns).

The leaks on Amaral's watch traduced and maligned the McCanns.

If Amaral can be held accountable for the leaks on his watch (even if it can't be proved he was personally, and directly, (ir)resposonsible) then proper order in the libel trial should be restored.

Utter rubbish.

Where in the court papers did it say libel trial ferryman ?

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2016, 10:54:57 AM »
I've no complaint with Rebelo (neither so far as I am aware, the McCanns).

The leaks on Amaral's watch traduced and maligned the McCanns.

If Amaral can be held accountable for the leaks on his watch (even if it can't be proved he was personally, and directly, (ir)resposonsible) then proper order in the libel trial should be restored.

Absolutely utterly and completely nothing at all to do with it.
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ferryman

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2016, 11:00:25 AM »
Absolutely utterly and completely nothing at all to do with it.

Why not?

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2016, 11:02:47 AM »

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2016, 02:24:16 PM »
Why not?

I'm not falling for that. You demonstrate their alleged relevance first.
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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2016, 02:52:26 PM »
I'm not falling for that. You demonstrate their alleged relevance first.

In what sense what you describe it as (ir)relevant that Amaral:

 misrepresents the reports of Mark Harrison in a way that traduces the McCanns?

Describes Eddie as "scenting death" all over the place when both Grime Harrison make plain no incriminating inference can be made from the reactions of (either!) dog?

Reports that Prior phoned the FSS to berate them on the PJ's powers of arrest (having first contradicted and corrected Prior on interpretation of the results) when (we can confidently predict) that is all a pile of crock?

Says that Kate and Gerry killed Madeleine (with an overdose of calpol!) then covered up the crime (and disposed of their dead daughter's body) when the Portuguese prosecutors say they can find no evidence (from the entirety of the files, which they carefully scrutinised before penning the archiving dispatch) that they could find no evidence that the McCanns committed any crime.

How could Amaral have said all that (in defiance of a wealth of evidence to the contrary), yet not have libelled the McCanns?

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2016, 02:55:24 PM »
In what sense what you describe it as (ir)relevant that Amaral:

 misrepresents the reports of Mark Harrison in a way that traduces the McCanns?

Describes Eddie as "scenting death" all over the place when both Grime Harrison make plain no incriminating inference can be made from the reactions of (either!) dog?

Reports that Prior phoned the FSS to berate them on the PJ's powers of arrest (having first contradicted and corrected Prior on interpretation of the results) when (we can confidently predict) that is all a pile of crock?

Says that Kate and Gerry killed Madeleine (with an overdose of calpol!) then covered up the crime (and disposed of their dead daughter's body) when the Portuguese prosecutors say they can find no evidence (from the entirety of the files, which they carefully scrutinised before penning the archiving dispatch) that they could find no evidence that the McCanns committed any crime.

How could Amaral have said all that (in defiance of a wealth of evidence to the contrary), yet not have libelled the McCanns?

This has been dealt with by the Portuguese Court in their recent decision.

ferryman

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2016, 02:59:59 PM »
This has been dealt with by the Portuguese Court in their recent decision.

No it hasn't.

This (recent) court ruling says Amaral is entitled to libel the McCanns.

Which is different.

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2016, 03:01:54 PM »
No it hasn't.

This (recent) court ruling says Amaral is entitled to libel the McCanns.

Which is different.

Incorrect again.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Libel ....
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2016, 03:13:35 PM »
In what sense what you describe it as (ir)relevant that Amaral:

 misrepresents the reports of Mark Harrison in a way that traduces the McCanns?

Describes Eddie as "scenting death" all over the place when both Grime Harrison make plain no incriminating inference can be made from the reactions of (either!) dog?

Reports that Prior phoned the FSS to berate them on the PJ's powers of arrest (having first contradicted and corrected Prior on interpretation of the results) when (we can confidently predict) that is all a pile of crock?

Says that Kate and Gerry killed Madeleine (with an overdose of calpol!) then covered up the crime (and disposed of their dead daughter's body) when the Portuguese prosecutors say they can find no evidence (from the entirety of the files, which they carefully scrutinised before penning the archiving dispatch) that they could find no evidence that the McCanns committed any crime.

How could Amaral have said all that (in defiance of a wealth of evidence to the contrary), yet not have libelled the McCanns?

I'm afraid everything you're talking about has been considered and ruled upon by two courts. Both courts found that the contents of his book were mostly facts which could be found in the files. His interpretation differed, but he was entitled to present his own interpretation in a literary work. The book will not be considered again by the Portuguese Supreme Court, which will consider only points of law.
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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2016, 12:42:31 PM »
Just to pre-warn members on this forum. It would appear that one of our number is crowing elsewhere about the construction of a new dossier of sceptics and their comments.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2016, 12:56:32 PM »
Just to pre-warn members on this forum. It would appear that one of our number is crowing elsewhere about the construction of a new dossier of sceptics and their comments.

No prizes for guessing who.
The first dossier wasn't that successful now was it ? and we have all heard ducks fart before haven't we Johnny ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ....
« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2016, 01:00:35 PM »
Just to pre-warn members on this forum. It would appear that one of our number is crowing elsewhere about the construction of a new dossier of sceptics and their comments.

fantastic news....perhaps the mccanns can raise some money by suing some of these people for libel..

stephen25000

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Re: Libel ....
« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2016, 01:06:31 PM »
I would suggest the Mccanns should now be worried about Amaral's claims against them and other parties.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Libel ....
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2016, 01:16:22 PM »
I would suggest the Mccanns should now be worried about Amaral's claims against them and other parties.

what claims..
sil made a very informed post which confirmed what I had already posted that amaral does not have a case...explain the grounds