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Offline faithlilly

Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« on: May 24, 2016, 11:53:11 PM »
If the McCann's appeal to the Supreme Court fails it is more than likely that they will face a huge legal bill for costs. As I'm sure no supporter would wish to see the search for Madeleine grind to a halt through lack of money in the fund would they consider setting up an account on a crowdfunding site, as the sceptics did for Amaral, in order to help the McCanns pay for their litigation instead of it coming from the Leaving No Stone Unturned Fund ?

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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 12:18:12 AM »
If the McCann's appeal to the Supreme Court fails it is more than likely that they will face a huge legal bill for costs. As I'm sure no supporter would wish to see the search for Madeleine grind to a halt through lack of money in the fund would they consider setting up an account on a crowdfunding site, as the sceptics did for Amaral, in order to help the McCanns pay for their litigation instead of it coming from the Leaving No Stone Unturned Fund ?

I'm sure some kind benefactor will step in should they require resources as several did previously.

Offline mercury

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 12:20:49 AM »
benefactor? ! Doubt it lol its not may 2007 anymore

What bnefactor would want to tarnish their name?

Anyway faith havent they cornered a part of their fund?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2016, 12:24:05 AM by mercury »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 12:25:16 AM »
I'm sure some kind benefactor will step in should they require resources as several did previously.

 As far as I am aware all their libel litigation has been paid for either through conditional fee arrangements or from the fund. Of course if you have evidence that I'm mistaken I'll be happy to concede the point.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 12:26:01 AM »
benefactor? ! Doubt it lol its not may 2007 anymore

What bnefactor would want to tarnish their name?

Anyway faith havent they cornered a part of their fund?

For the search yes.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 12:29:50 AM »
For the search yes.

OH that dud thng yes of course theyhavemeh

Nite
« Last Edit: May 25, 2016, 12:37:42 AM by mercury »

Alfie

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 08:56:34 AM »
If the McCann's appeal to the Supreme Court fails it is more than likely that they will face a huge legal bill for costs. As I'm sure no supporter would wish to see the search for Madeleine grind to a halt through lack of money in the fund would they consider setting up an account on a crowdfunding site, as the sceptics did for Amaral, in order to help the McCanns pay for their litigation instead of it coming from the Leaving No Stone Unturned Fund ?
Why don't you get the ball rolling and set one up yourself, I'm sure you'd hate to think that the McCanns were denied justice simply because of a lack of funds.  I'll make a donation once you've set it up. Great idea btw.

stephen25000

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 09:33:08 AM »
Why don't you get the ball rolling and set one up yourself, I'm sure you'd hate to think that the McCanns were denied justice simply because of a lack of funds.  I'll make a donation once you've set it up. Great idea btw.

Why don't the mccanns  pay for it themselves.

After all , they haven't done it themselves, merely relying on others to do it for them.

They were quite happy for Amaral to have his assets seized, so he had to rely on the goodwill of others.

Meanwhile they have wasted millions themselves, which they never contributed to themselves.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 10:03:37 AM »
Why don't you get the ball rolling and set one up yourself, I'm sure you'd hate to think that the McCanns were denied justice simply because of a lack of funds.  I'll make a donation once you've set it up. Great idea btw.

It is a good idea isn't it Alfie. Strange no supporter has thought of it before. As to setting up an account myself of course I would if only to ensure that the fund wasn't drained but unfortunately being a committed sceptic I'm not sure I'd be the right person to front such a venture. You, on the other hand,  or perhaps Brietta, misty, Carana or Benice would be a much better choice. Surely any one of you would jump at the chance to make a real difference to the search for Madeleine ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 10:21:33 AM »
As far as I am aware all their libel litigation has been paid for either through conditional fee arrangements or from the fund. Of course if you have evidence that I'm mistaken I'll be happy to concede the point.

Conditional fee arrangements aren't allowed in Portugal. So their lawyers will have to be paid and, if they lose, they will have to pay all the court fees plus 50% of them to the three defendants as a contribution to their lawyer costs, in addition to other expenses. The court fees are calculated according to the size of the claim, and seem to be around 12% of it for a straightforward case. A complex case may cost more.
http://www.chambersandpartners.com/guide/practice-guides/location/241/6617/1422-200

I think there's a difference between crowd funding to help a defendant with frozen assets and helping those who have chosen to attack.
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ferryman

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 10:36:46 AM »
benefactor? ! Doubt it lol its not may 2007 anymore

What bnefactor would want to tarnish their name?

Anyway faith havent they cornered a part of their fund?

What is name-tarnishing about supporting truth and justice for an innocent, put-upon couple hovering between hope and grief for their lost daughter?

stephen25000

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 10:47:42 AM »
What is name-tarnishing about supporting truth and justice for an innocent, put-upon couple hovering between hope and grief for their lost daughter?

You do not know who is innocent or otherwise in this case ferryman.

As to funding, it is about time they funded their own campaign, and not rely on other people to fund their mistakes.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 10:48:33 AM »
Conditional fee arrangements aren't allowed in Portugal. So their lawyers will have to be paid and, if they lose, they will have to pay all the court fees plus 50% of them to the three defendants as a contribution to their lawyer costs, in addition to other expenses. The court fees are calculated according to the size of the claim, and seem to be around 12% of it for a straightforward case. A complex case may cost more.
http://www.chambersandpartners.com/guide/practice-guides/location/241/6617/1422-200

I think there's a difference between crowd funding to help a defendant with frozen assets and helping those who have chosen to attack.

Perhaps it would be easier for the supporters to answer the original question if they knew just how the McCanns, if they lose at the SC, are going to pay the court costs.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 10:51:52 AM »
What is name-tarnishing about supporting truth and justice for an innocent, put-upon couple hovering between hope and grief for their lost daughter?

So are you willing to turn that support into something positive ferryman ? Something that will avoid the depletion of the fund if the McCanns lose at the SC ?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2016, 10:59:31 AM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

ferryman

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Re: Crowdfunding the McCann's Litigation.
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 11:04:45 AM »
So are you willing to turn that support into something positive ferryman ? Something that will avoid the depletion of the fund if the McCanns lose at the SC ?

Willing, yes.

And if I do, I shall use a reputable crowd-funding platform such as justgiving