Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?

[Brietta]

Thank you Eleanor, that is my reading of it too.  I am glad you put "apparently" at the end of the second sentence as it doesn't appear to be standard practice, although it does happen.  All IMO.

In my opinion ... given that a cadaver dog indicated inexplicably in a case such as this ... it would have been effective and good practice to have had a 'blind' test carried out by another dog and handler, and who knows a lot of time and heartbreak could have been spared.

In my opinion in cases such as this it is standard practice to use more than one dog as was done when searching for Suzanne Pilley and Shannon Matthews, who was found alive despite the dogs' reaction dictating otherwise.

[Sunny]

Sadly, no one really knew what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.

Is it Eleanor?  I believe you should have posted IMO on that one.

[Eleanor]

Is it Eleanor?  I believe you should have posted IMO on that one.

Sadly, no one knows what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.

[barrier]

Sadly, no one knows what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.

I beleive in the first judgement for the McCann's which Amaral succesfully appealed its a stated fact of what Eddie alerted to,that judgement is here somewhere.

ETA,here you go proved facts.

6. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in the apartment 5A, Ocean Club [alínea AR) of the undisputed facts].

7. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in a vehicle rented by the claimants after the disappearance of MMC [alínea AS) of the undisputed facts].


So given Keela is not a Cadaver dog and cadaver was detected that just leaves Ediie.

[misty]

Sadly, no one knows what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.

In the Parker case, it is strange that no-one mentions Eddie's alerts to Sam's gun & pair of jeans. Parker originally said to a police colleague, Ben Chaffin, that he had shot Theresa in the head. This was known before the cadaver dogs were brought in. When her body was found a few years later, there was no trace of a gunshot wound, although part of her skull was missing. The crucial evidence which provided forensics for prosecution was obtained due to another cadaver dog's alerts, unconnected to Eddie's search. The words "hedging" & "bets" often spring into my mind when thinking about Eddie's alerts.....just my opinion.

http://behindthebluewall.blogspot.com/2009/07/ga-overview-fired-police-sgt-sam.html
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
[Excerpts] ...Tuesday's testimony revealed details of evidence gathered by police during searches of Mr. Parker's home and during interviews with the former LaFayette police officer... District Attorney Leigh Patterson worked to persuad Superior Court Judge Jon "Bo" Wood to admit testimony from two cadaver dog experts... Ms. Patterson showed a video of Eddie sniffing for objects that were taken from Mr. Parker's home. The items were hidden around a room. The dog gave a positive response when he sniffed a gun and a pair of jeans. Eddie also detected a scent in Mr. Parker's garage and another expert, Lisa Higgins, said her dog gave a "pretty intense" positive response when investigating Mr. Parker's car... During the testimony, investigators said they had investigated piles of burned material in his yard that Mr. Parker created soon after his wife disappeared. Mr. Dunn noted that tests of the burn piles produced no evidence.

[Mr Gray]

I beleive in the first judgement for the McCann's which Amaral succesfully appealed its a stated fact of what Eddie alerted to,that judgement is here somewhere.

ETA,here you go proved facts.

6. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in the apartment 5A, Ocean Club [alínea AR) of the undisputed facts].

7. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in a vehicle rented by the claimants after the disappearance of MMC [alínea AS) of the undisputed facts].


So given Keela is not a Cadaver dog and cadaver was detected that just leaves Ediie.

The proven facts are incorrect

[barrier]

The proven facts are incorrect

Wheres that written?

[Mr Gray]

Wheres that written?

Grimes statement... Just because the Portuguese court say it's a proven fact doesn't mean it is...
In the cipriano case it was stated in the proven facts Joannas blod was found in the house... The blood was never tested for DNA...

[Mr Gray]

Wheres that written?

Where and in what court was it proved... Do you not realise it's pure BS

[barrier]

Where and in what court was it proved... Do you not realise it's pure BS

The court that decided the first judgement.
No wonder Amaral won his appeal then.

[Eleanor]

I beleive in the first judgement for the McCann's which Amaral succesfully appealed its a stated fact of what Eddie alerted to,that judgement is here somewhere.

ETA,here you go proved facts.

6. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in the apartment 5A, Ocean Club [alínea AR) of the undisputed facts].

7. The British police dogs “Eddie” and “Keela” detected human blood and cadaver in a vehicle rented by the claimants after the disappearance of MMC [alínea AS) of the undisputed facts].


So given Keela is not a Cadaver dog and cadaver was detected that just leaves Ediie.

I would have liked to see that presented In Court.  But it was never going to be.  Because there is No Proof.  And that is a fact.

[barrier]

I would have liked to see that presented In Court.  But it was never going to be.  Because there is No Proof.  And that is a fact.

It was shown in a court the fact you won't recognise it, is plain to see.

[Eleanor]

Grimes statement... Just because the Portuguese court say it's a proven fact doesn't mean it is...
In the cipriano case it was stated in the proven facts Joannas blod was found in the house... The blood was never tested for DNA...

The Portuguese Courts have  minds of their own, none of which relate to facts.

[Eleanor]

Yes they do know. They just need to corroborate it.

When do you think that might happen?

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's not a case of ignoring anything, it's a case of following two different and possible hypotheses.

1. The alerts weren't connected to Madeleine therefore she left 5A alive.
2. The alerts were connected to Madeleine, therefore she was dead when she left 5A.

They could have come to the same conclusions without giving the dog alerts any credence at all.