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Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #255 on: October 20, 2018, 09:05:46 AM »
Davel seemed to think that OG said Madeleine might be alive meant that they had dismissed the dog alerts. I simply reminded him that they also said she might be dead. There's also the digging, of course.

The digging found No Remains.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #256 on: October 20, 2018, 09:06:49 AM »
Davel seemed to think that OG said Madeleine might be alive meant that they had dismissed the dog alerts. I simply reminded him that they also said she might be dead. There's also the digging, of course.

The fact they consider she msy be alive confirms they are willing to ignore  the alerts..... Whether the dogs alerted or not she may be dead

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #257 on: October 20, 2018, 09:13:16 AM »
Are they covering their bases?  Either she is dead or alive, both possible.

Well they have 50% chance of being right...

The fact they consider she msy be alive confirms they are willing to ignore  the alerts..... Whether the dogs alerted or not she may be dead
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I am still perplexed as to why supporters and the family can't accept that a 'burglar/paedophile killed MBM in the apartment and then got rid of her.  OK back to the dogs... Sandra ^*&&.

 She was stoled alive- unconcious but alive?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #258 on: October 20, 2018, 10:27:48 AM »
The fact they consider she msy be alive confirms they are willing to ignore  the alerts..... Whether the dogs alerted or not she may be dead

It's not a case of ignoring anything, it's a case of following two different and possible hypotheses.

1. The alerts weren't connected to Madeleine therefore she left 5A alive.
2. The alerts were connected to Madeleine, therefore she was dead when she left 5A.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #259 on: October 20, 2018, 10:29:50 AM »
The digging found No Remains.

Do we know whether the dogs that Scotland Yard took to Portugal alerted anywhere Eleanor?  I haven't read that they did, or not.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #260 on: October 20, 2018, 10:35:30 AM »
It's not a case of ignoring anything, it's a case of following two different and possible hypotheses.

1. The alerts weren't connected to Madeleine therefore she left 5A alive.
2. The alerts were connected to Madeleine, therefore she was dead when she left 5A.

Why only two you have forgotten the third... The alerts were connected to Maddie and she died in 5a.... And was removed before cadaverine developed

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #261 on: October 20, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
Do we know whether the dogs that Scotland Yard took to Portugal alerted anywhere Eleanor?  I haven't read that they did, or not.


There is no independant news which states why the dogs were brought there OR why that particular spot was targeted, however, that fact that they used dogs is a sign that they do trust their 'sniffing' alerts.  ^*&&

I would be inclined to believe these were maybe  cadaver dogs.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #262 on: October 20, 2018, 10:38:42 AM »

There is no independant news which states why the dogs were brought there OR why that particular spot was targeted, however, that fact that they used dogs is a sign that they do trust their 'sniffing' alerts.  ^*&&

I would be inclined to believe these were maybe  cadaver dogs.

I can't see that they would be general search dogs looking for a live person so what other dogs would they be apart from blood or cadaver dogs.   I agree it does appear that Scotland Yard do trust their alerts or why waste the time/money taking them.
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Offline barrier

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #263 on: October 20, 2018, 10:40:39 AM »

There is no independant news which states why the dogs were brought there OR why that particular spot was targeted, however, that fact that they used dogs is a sign that they do trust their 'sniffing' alerts.  ^*&&

I would be inclined to believe these were maybe  cadaver dogs.


I'm loath to rely on the press but needs must.

"Tito and Muzzy, two specialist cadaver dogs from South Wales Police, worked with handlers Sally Richards and David Brake combing the area around the iron sheet".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/480081/Madeleine-McCann-Sniffer-dogs-used-in-April-Jones-case-enlisted-in-search
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #264 on: October 20, 2018, 10:41:18 AM »
Do we know whether the dogs that Scotland Yard took to Portugal alerted anywhere Eleanor?  I haven't read that they did, or not.

They didn't find any remains, so probably not.  And two Cadaver dogs were used in conjunction on this occasion, as is standard practice, apparently.

Offline Sunny

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #265 on: October 20, 2018, 10:44:26 AM »
They didn't find any remains, so probably not.  And two Cadaver dogs were used in conjunction on this occasion, as is standard practice, apparently.

Thank you Eleanor, that is my reading of it too.  I am glad you put "apparently" at the end of the second sentence as it doesn't appear to be standard practice, although it does happen.  All IMO.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #266 on: October 20, 2018, 11:37:19 AM »
Thank you Eleanor, that is my reading of it too.  I am glad you put "apparently" at the end of the second sentence as it doesn't appear to be standard practice, although it does happen.  All IMO.

Quite possibly motivated by Grime's use of a dog that was not fit for purpose.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #267 on: October 20, 2018, 11:42:35 AM »
Why only two you have forgotten the third... The alerts were connected to Maddie and she died in 5a.... And was removed before cadaverine developed

Surely there would have been no alerts if the body was removed immediately?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #268 on: October 20, 2018, 12:02:21 PM »
Quite possibly motivated by Grime's use of a dog that was not fit for purpose.

Eddie worked on the Theresa Parker case after the McCann case in 2007 and his alerts were proven. Just so you know before spreading further myths!
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #269 on: October 20, 2018, 12:05:59 PM »
Eddie worked on the Theresa Parker case after the McCann case in 2007 and his alerts were proven. Just so you know before spreading further myths!

Sadly, no one really knew what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.