Author Topic: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?  (Read 124471 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #285 on: October 20, 2018, 05:54:33 PM »
Surely there would have been no alerts if the body was removed immediately?
Why not?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #286 on: October 20, 2018, 05:58:13 PM »

It was shown in a court the fact you won't recognise it, is plain to see.

The alerts to cadaver seem to be a proven fact in the portuguese court...so your claim should carry a caveat.
as they have never been proven to be a fact in any court this raises question about the portuguese justice system. Portugal seems to accept facts a s proven without any evidence....no wonder the mccanns fled

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #287 on: October 20, 2018, 06:00:55 PM »
Surely there would have been no alerts if the body was removed immediately?

you are making the assumption that the alerts could only have been due to maddies cadaver...that is a gross and incorrect assumtion

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #288 on: October 20, 2018, 06:25:01 PM »
you are making the assumption that the alerts could only have been due to maddies cadaver...that is a gross and incorrect assumtion

I was trying to maje sense of what you said;

The alerts were connected to Maddie and she died in 5a.... And was removed before cadaverine developed
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #289 on: October 20, 2018, 06:30:33 PM »
I was trying to maje sense of what you said;

The alerts were connected to Maddie and she died in 5a.... And was removed before cadaverine developed

It's quite possible Maddie died... Was removed immediately ...and yet the dogs still alert... But not to Maddie

Offline Sunny

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #290 on: October 20, 2018, 06:55:06 PM »
The alerts to cadaver seem to be a proven fact in the portuguese court...so your claim should carry a caveat.
as they have never been proven to be a fact in any court this raises question about the portuguese justice system. Portugal seems to accept facts a s proven without any evidence....no wonder the mccanns fled

I thought the McCanns and supporters were at pains to say that they didn't flee Portugal but had reached the end of their rental agreement in the villa, thank you for clarifying that they fled.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #291 on: October 20, 2018, 06:57:05 PM »
I thought the McCanns and supporters were at pains to say that they didn't flee Portugal but had reached the end of their rental agreement in the villa, thank you for clarifying that they fled.

That's not.. And has never been my view... I believe they fled in fear of a miscarriage  of justice

Offline G-Unit

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #292 on: October 20, 2018, 07:08:18 PM »
It's quite possible Maddie died... Was removed immediately ...and yet the dogs still alert... But not to Maddie

Kate McCann suggested something similar, I believe;

Supposing she had been killed – and we think this extremely unlikely – she must have been taken out of the apartment within minutes. [madeleine]
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #293 on: October 20, 2018, 07:09:31 PM »
Kate McCann suggested something similar, I believe;

Supposing she had been killed – and we think this extremely unlikely – she must have been taken out of the apartment within minutes. [madeleine]

So Maddie could have died in the apartment and left no cadaver odour

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #294 on: October 20, 2018, 07:18:09 PM »
It's quite possible Maddie died... Was removed immediately ...and yet the dogs still alert... But not to Maddie
At each step there are multiple possibilities.

Maddie, (alive or dead), was removed (walked herself, carried alive or carried dead) and the dogs alert, (true, false positive), to cadaver odour, (Madeleine's or someone else's cadaver, or past cadaver contamination).
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Offline John

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #295 on: October 20, 2018, 10:18:52 PM »
Sadly, no one knows what Eddie was alerting to.  That is a fact.

I totally agree Eleanor, it could have been one of many possible substances as Eddie did not react solely to cadaver odour.
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Offline xtina

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #296 on: October 21, 2018, 08:10:55 AM »
That's not.. And has never been my view... I believe they fled in fear of a miscarriage  of justice


How ever would there have been a misscarage of justice....

they were totally surrounded by legal protection...

IMO the only thing that would have kept them there is ...

If there was something beyond legal help etc etc...that PJ could use...or where getting close to...

they were practically untouchable .....so why fear a misscarage of justice....

if they were telling the truth ......what would they have to fear...


http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2016/04/ex-british-diplomat-craig-murray-speaks.html

Ex British Diplomat Craig Murray Speaks On The McCanns


I am going to come straight out with this. British diplomatic staff were under direct instruction to support the McCanns far beyond the usual and to put pressure on the Portuguese authorities over the case. I have direct information that more than one of those diplomatic staff found the McCanns less than convincing and their stories inconsistent. Embassy staff were perturbed to be ordered that British authorities were to be present at every contact between the McCanns and Portuguese police.
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #297 on: October 21, 2018, 08:18:00 AM »

How ever would there have been a misscarage of justice....

they were totally surrounded by legal protection...

IMO the only thing that would have kept them there is ...

If there was something beyond legal help etc etc...that PJ could use...or where getting close to...

they were practically untouchable .....so why fear a misscarage of justice....

if they were telling the truth ......what would they have to fear...


http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2016/04/ex-british-diplomat-craig-murray-speaks.html

Ex British Diplomat Craig Murray Speaks On The McCanns


I am going to come straight out with this. British diplomatic staff were under direct instruction to support the McCanns far beyond the usual and to put pressure on the Portuguese authorities over the case. I have direct information that more than one of those diplomatic staff found the McCanns less than convincing and their stories inconsistent. Embassy staff were perturbed to be ordered that British authorities were to be present at every contact between the McCanns and Portuguese police.
In my view it was, reasonable to fear they would be arrested even though innocent... We wont agree so it's pointless arguing over it

Offline xtina

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #298 on: October 21, 2018, 08:23:03 AM »
In my view it was, reasonable to fear they would be arrested even though innocent... We wont agree so it's pointless arguing over it

Fair enough....

but you seem to think then... they had reasonable evidence ...to arrest them..

Even though they were drowning in legal and diplomatic help....

and a watching world.....
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral misinterpret the evidence?
« Reply #299 on: October 21, 2018, 08:25:39 AM »
Fair enough....

but you seem to think then... they had reasonable evidence ...to arrest them..

Even though they were drowning in legal and diplomatic help....

and a watching world.....

I think they thought they had evidence... They misunderstood.. Imo